fastxx78
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posted June 20, 2004 08:48 PM
Best exhaust
I have a completely stock 03 Blackbird. The first mods I am looking at are sprockets and a full pipe. I allready have the sprockets ordered. What I would like is your opinions on exhausts. I would prefer something with a deep tone to it, but my main concern is which pipe is going to produce the most power.
  
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Ra12r
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posted June 21, 2004 07:16 AM
If your MAIN CONCERN was about power, why did you buy a blackbird? When i owned a 1998 zx11 and ask why the 99 zx9's were beating me, and what could i do...... The answer was save my money and buy a zx9. This was 1999. I bought a 2000 zx12 the next year instead, and that solved my power issue. I think you should consider the same, before spending much money. Enjoy your blackbird, but be smart about investing money into it.
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posted June 21, 2004 08:25 AM
He didn't say he wanted the most power of any motorcycle, just the most for his bike. What's so hard to understand? Why must you come down so hard on the guy?
Fastxx78, there aren't many Honda folks around here. Muzzy makes excellent exhaust systems. You might want to call Velocity Racing (.com) or Erion Racing (.com) and see what they like, they have had lotsa success racing Hondas.
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posted June 21, 2004 05:28 PM
I think Y2KZX12R had an XX with a Yosh pipe on it.
The best kind of pipe is similiar to the one ol Dean has on his ZRX.. with the little spooly deal hooked to it....lol
Ask KBryant on the ZX10 forum...... he's a big Honda fanatic! He's also VP at Jardine!
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posted June 21, 2004 06:12 PM
Akrapovic is the best pipe...
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Ra12r
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posted June 21, 2004 06:21 PM
zrxdean, didn't mean to be hard, just didn't want the guy to waste his money. The xx only makes about 130 regardless, so spending bucks on pipes and ect, to me would be better spent on other things. The bike is heavy but a comfortable ride. Just trying to help the guy get some perspective prior to deep investment. My friend help me not waste money on my zx11, so I was just making a suggestion.
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draggsxr750
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posted June 21, 2004 06:30 PM
check out ti force and hindle they make the most power but like these guys said they dont make a lot of power but that can all change with a lil bottle for turbo i had a gsxr 750 a few months ago racing it with spray i beat quite a few guys on busa and 12 granted i was spraying 80 but hey its what u have make the best of it peace
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draggsxr750
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posted June 21, 2004 06:33 PM
ti force is also lighter just as an example that i have personally seen my bike gsxr 1000 with full yosh made 155.7 but same motor with ti made 159.1 now thats a differece but there is also a price diff ya have to look at like about 500.00 dollars Three horse power for about 500.00 or nitrous for about 400.00 and unlimited power or tha turbo app. think about
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posted June 21, 2004 06:48 PM
Ti force would take some girth off that bigboy... but at $1200...
Ive never seen an Akra on a BB. Wierd.
We rode with a big bore BB this weekend... I rolled on with my stock motored ZX12 and put some good distance on him. For the amount of CCs he was running, seemed slow.
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fastxx78
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posted June 21, 2004 07:52 PM
 Edited By: fastxx78 on 21 Jun 2004 20:53
I am not trying to be the fastest bike at the track. If all I wanted to do was go fast I would have just gotten a Busa and put a turbo on it. I like the Bird for it's attributes as a streetbike, which is after all where it spends the vast majority of it's time. I did 980 miles a couple of saturdays ago with no problem at all. I had a blast. To me, the track is just one more way to enjoy the bike, but certainly not the main reason I own it. I have just gotten to the point that I would like to get a little more out of it. I never said horsepwer was my only reason for putting a pipe on it, but a full system is cheaper than a slip on and if I am gonna spend the money to put a pipe on it I may as well get what I can out of it. Also, if I wanted to go really fast, the expense of getting another new bike would make it more than worthwhile to just put a turbo on this one and be ahead of the game.
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posted June 22, 2004 02:18 PM
tha gas man only 400.00
naw u make a good point a lot of these people dont ride there bikes on the street.
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posted June 22, 2004 05:42 PM
Edited By: ZX12Girl on 23 Jun 2004 14:02
I would contact Berry and see which one makes the most power for the Blackbird..... Akropovic and Muzzy made the most power for the ZX12R. HMF and Brock Hindle made the most power for the Busa....but I could not tell you what makes the most power for the Bird!
I hear ya on the Turbo.....You will not need a different bike....just slap a turbo on and not only will you be fast....but comfortable as well!!!!
I was seriously thinking about a Bird for the everyday cruiser!!! Nice power and comfortable seating position....
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fastxx78
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posted June 23, 2004 10:07 AM
Thanks, now who is Berry and how do I contact him?
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posted June 23, 2004 02:11 PM
Think she meant Barry...at velocity racing.
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posted June 23, 2004 02:13 PM
Try K. Bryant first on the ZX10 forum. I dont think Barrys tuned too many street Hondas lately.
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posted June 24, 2004 03:31 PM
on an Honda you would have to consider Jardine as well....Kerry and them boys have been doing great things with Honda for some time now.....
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posted June 24, 2004 04:00 PM
forget the pipe, admit defeat and get the turbo kit 
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posted June 24, 2004 06:21 PM
hmmm pipe and turbo......heheheheh got to keep the neighbors smiling.....lol
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fastxx78
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posted June 24, 2004 07:06 PM
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forget the pipe, admit defeat and get the turbo kit
I have actually toyed with that idea, but I am not sure if I want to spend that much money yet.
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fastxx78
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posted June 24, 2004 07:09 PM
The cheapest kits I have seen are listed at 3700 and I am sure there are some more costs involved somewhere, not even counting instalation. Also, what are the odds I would screw it up if I tried to do it myself?
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posted June 24, 2004 07:32 PM
Well look at it this way... a good pipe and tuning session could quickly burn $1000 up fast.
Im not sure if American Turbo is still in business, but they had an Aerocharger kit that worked ok and was good for about 200 rwhp.
Velocity probably has a low budget kit available by now.
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posted June 25, 2004 07:33 AM
Turbo that biatch...If you are going NA, use an ERION race pipe, or an Akro... Muzzy is another cheap, but decent alternative the da bird
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fastxx78
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posted June 30, 2004 03:41 PM
I think I have made up my mind to get the Akra witht the Ti canister. The cheapest I have found so far is $699 plus $30 shipping. If anybody knows of a better deal please let me know. Also, does anybody know of any sound clips. I have heard an Akra on a XX before but it has been quite a while.
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posted June 30, 2004 06:29 PM
Thats a smoking deal. Thats usually what used and abused pipes go for!
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posted July 01, 2004 03:22 AM
buy it now.......it wont get any better than that price unless you get a used one like Turbo said.....
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