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posted November 12, 2003 02:14 PM
ZX-10 clutch.....
Has anyone ridden one yet with this new clutch?
Extremelean? Doug?
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posted November 12, 2003 04:25 PM
Doug doesn't have a bike yet. EL has ridden one, but don't know how much he's ridden it.
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posted November 12, 2003 05:35 PM
interestingly enough dynojet has already released a PC3R for the ZX10R
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posted November 12, 2003 05:41 PM
Is it a USB model?
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posted November 13, 2003 04:10 AM
Went and checked it out... What's interesting is that they've got the PC USB ready for the ZX10R, and the 2004 ZX6R, but not the RR...That's 'in development'. Is the bike that different from the 6R?
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posted November 13, 2003 01:17 PM
They probably just know what kind of electrical connection was/is needed, so the part number materializes. But no map is developed yet. But then again, if they are involved with the race team, they could very well have got a pre-production bike to map. I would guess xl may be the only one who knows for sure....
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posted November 13, 2003 01:27 PM
DAMNIT. why does kawi have to come out with such a cool bike NOW. I Was all set to make the 2000 '12 my "last crotch rocket" and then start riding cruisers (keeping the '12 forever of course). Now... well... maybe I should wait a few more years?
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posted November 13, 2003 01:38 PM
DP that's my plan. they will always have something new coming out. I'm geting a 1361 and i'll hunt down busas, zx10, gsxr1000 and anyone how crosses my path. 1361 and progressive wet NOS kit.
By the time the masses get in front on me i'll be ready for a goldwing. 
maybe not i may become the next gen VH. he's one cool ole' dude.
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posted November 13, 2003 04:29 PM
I just read in Sportrider that the ZX10 comes with an adjustible slipper style clutch???
Damn...put that in the 12 whydoncha
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posted November 13, 2003 05:33 PM
Yepyep...That's a backtorque limiting clutch. Won't slip off the line for drag racing.
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posted November 13, 2003 05:49 PM
Isn't that the same feature that the Busa guys mod/eliminate from their clutches?
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posted November 13, 2003 07:52 PM
Nope, not a feature in a busa clutch, to the best of my knowledge.
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posted November 13, 2003 07:56 PM
Swft, I thought the backtorque limiter was to prevent over-revving/wheel lockup when changing down at high revs. To stop spin on launches you'd need an electronic traction control system.......
Backtorque limiter was first fitted to Honda's crappy NS500 oval-piston race bike if I remember right, and has made it onto quite a few road bikes. The difference is that they usually aren't adjustable like YCIS says the '10 will be.
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posted November 13, 2003 08:00 PM
Sorry, read that wrong Swft, slip not spin. But still the same, I don't reckon the back-torque limiter will help the "real" clutch during acceleration.
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posted November 13, 2003 08:05 PM
You are right. Won't slip the clutch at a launch. If these things are anywhere as fragile as the race ones are, you'd be good for about three passes at the strip before you are done. If you will recall, that's all Eric could nurse outta the ZX7RR at Daytona was three starts.
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posted November 13, 2003 08:28 PM
slipper clutch.......opens clutch pack on rapid deceleration so as not to disturb the rear tire or chasis....AKA- stops rear wheel hop
Back torque limiters have been on our machines for quite a long time...well before the NR oval piston machine......Concours and Vulcans have had them since their inception.
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posted November 13, 2003 08:32 PM
All ZX7's from 1989 on up to present have back torque limiters.
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posted November 14, 2003 02:51 AM
I guess you havent ridden one then?
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posted November 14, 2003 04:24 PM
i like the back torque clutch in my little 6RR....run hard into the corner dropp 2 gears, and drop the clutch, aint got to worry about easin it out. But I will say that the clutch feels a little weird on the street. It works fine, just feels different than a regular clutch. ...
Extreme...are you sure all ZX7R's have them, or do you mean the ZX7RR, that they are racing? I rode my buddies ZX7R at the track the last time we were out there, and I got wheel chatter out of it, cause I was use to the 6RR, scared the shit out of me cause I wasnt expecting it...just trying to clarify, cause if the &r's came with one, then he needs to get his fixed....
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posted November 17, 2003 02:04 PM
HDL.......the back torque limiters of the past are slightly different from the slipper clutches of today...a little different tuning elements involved.
If you goto buykawasaki.com and look up an 1989 up to now ZX7 you will see in the clutch diagram a leaf spring and if you zoom in on the hub you will see small ramps on the inside that fit into ramps on the hub backing plate......the leaf spring is the key to this back torque limiter system.
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posted November 19, 2003 07:38 AM
extremelean, so have you ridden the new zx10r yet?
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posted November 19, 2003 09:47 AM
Yes....I have ridden many.
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posted November 19, 2003 12:09 PM
NEVERMIND...
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posted November 19, 2003 12:42 PM
EXL, Without divulging any career ending information, over what time frame? Were there many changes along the way? Was the state of tune (HP) ever changed up or down during testing? Did you test, head to head, with production bikes from other companies? You know, just interesting tidbits without releasing any "classified" information.
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posted November 19, 2003 01:46 PM
I don't think it was even worth your time to type out your questions..... You don't have enough money, a big enough gun, or sordid pictures of XL doing things to .... well use your imagination.
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