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posted November 07, 2003 06:43 PM        
Anyone here own and Xterra?

I've been car shopping... Test drove a V8 Toyota 4runner which I thought was nice.. I need a SUV with towing capacity etc.. none of the American units seems to hold their value, nor are they reliable so they are out of the running. Swft suggested looking at the Xterra, which costs quite a bit less than the 4 Runner. Anyone here actually own one of these and have some hands on experience/ comments? I did look at the Pathfinder, but if I were to go that route I'd just end up getting the 4Runner....

thoughts?
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posted November 07, 2003 11:25 PM        
Until I settled on the Element for it's practicality, the Xterra was high on my list. It's pretty much a conventional SUV with a fairly robust motor. A quick search reveals at least 21 Xterra boards, covering the East, West and inbetween. Lots of personal web pages as well. Seems to have quite a following. There is of course, a Pacific Northwest Xterra Club

http://www.pnwx.net/index1.html



And of course, the Nissan web page:

http://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/ModelHomePage/0,9438,20460,00.html

The 210hp SE/SC sounds pretty perky!


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posted November 08, 2003 03:37 AM        
quote:
Until I settled on the Element for it's practicality...quote]

and good looks!!! kinda reminds me of a london taxi.
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posted November 08, 2003 06:19 AM        
Let me tell you, I never have a problem finding it in a parking lot! Besides, if I want sexy, fast, good looking, I just hop in the Z06 Corvette.
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posted November 08, 2003 08:32 AM        
Yes, I hop in my studly white station wagon that's full of stickers
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posted November 08, 2003 10:08 AM        
Hey Fish - some of the American SUV's are pretty reliable, I have a Ford Explorer with 245,000 miles on it . So far, the biggest repairs, trans-rebuild at 220,000 miles and a new starter (last week). Other than that, oil/filter/tire/break changes is all it needed!!

I also have a Ford Expedition (5.4 liter -GREAT towing) with 112,000 miles on it. She runs like a top no major (knock on wood) repairs yet.

I'm not too sure about the holding their value aspect, but I would say that I got my value out of that Explorer .

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posted November 08, 2003 03:34 PM        
Last year's girlfriend bought a new one in 2001. She kept wanting to know if I could make her Exterra run like my Durango. It is a dog and she hates it. I found it extremely boring.
I LOVE my (98) Durango. It will still ftech about 12K, almost 6 model years old . I've towed my 18 foot race trailer with a Corvette inside without a problem. 71,000 miles had to put ball joints in it- it was a universal failure type thing. There might even be a recall on it. Other than that, no problems at all.
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posted November 08, 2003 03:56 PM        
"none of the American units seems to hold their value, nor are they reliable so they are out of the running. "




Ouch!!!
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posted November 08, 2003 05:09 PM        
Wow.... funny thing. My buddy works as a car hauler and lately he's been doing dealer demo shows. He has the New Ford 150, Toyota Tundra, Dodge Ram with the Hemi, and two Nissan somethings.
Those Nissans haul ass! 300hp / 365 tq. Of course these are preproduction units... but I couldnt believe how fast the Nissan is!
Of course Im not supposed to say anything. The Hemi was pretty close.
The Ford and Toyota are fucking dogs.
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posted November 08, 2003 05:21 PM        
As far as production systems. Nothing comes close to the Japanese. Their attention to details is unreal.
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posted November 08, 2003 06:03 PM        
forget about it. Soe people want to turn up their nose at one thing or another. Not necessarily because they have any experience with it, but because it 'amuses' them to see what reaction they engender from people who do care. I would agree in an overall sense with what Necro's saying, but american quality has made great strides. And I would point to the computer industry in the US as example of quality and performance. The japanese are great copiers and refiners, but poor innovators. Can anyone name the last japanese-designed general purpose computer that was built?
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posted November 08, 2003 06:08 PM        
Parm Pirot?
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posted November 08, 2003 06:15 PM        
Fish, I'd look into one a' those Canadian built SUVs.
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posted November 08, 2003 07:51 PM        
Yep, and make sure and buy nothing but those fine canadian-made tires for it.
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posted November 08, 2003 08:16 PM        Edited By: Scooter on 8 Nov 2003 20:21
My "SUV" ....Double Cab Tacoma with an A.R.E top. No wet dog or gas can smells wafting through the cab, more room in the back and you can take the top off to haul something tall, like say a washingmachine or a motorcycle. Seating for five. And it pulls nice too(TRD tranny cooler, headers, exh. and supercharger, should be somewhere near 300 hp?, next is a 7 th injector)



FWIW A friend of mine down in Tennessee bought an Xterra when they first came out, he likes it.
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posted November 08, 2003 08:34 PM        
Now thats nice Scooter...........and real sensible thinking about the smells wafting through the cab......


Looks like a another choice to consider fish.


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posted November 08, 2003 08:51 PM        
Thanks, WB. Mine's identical except for the goofey tail lamp guards. If ya like that your gonna love the paint job soon to adorn my 12. Can ya say P-40

BTW I still get 17/21 mpg(if I keep my foot out of it ). Avg'd 15-17 pulling this the 1000 mi down to T.W.O. in the Georgia mtns last summer. 3500lb +/-


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posted November 08, 2003 11:00 PM        
Everyone I know who has had a Durango or other "insert ameri-scrap suv here" has had nothing but problems. Consumer reports absolutely lacerates all of the american products. Doug... yer the second person who thought the Xterra was a "dog"...

hmmm.... maybe I could buy one of the "parm pirots" instead
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posted November 09, 2003 10:43 AM        
I agree with you swft that American quality has improved a lot, but we're not there yet.

I'll give you an example.

It used to take about two days to change the die on press for body panels, and it would take a dozen pieces or so to get the part to spec.

If I remember right, Ford now does it in about two hours and the 3rd or 4th part is correct.

Toyota does it in about 8 minutes and the first or second part is right.

This is who Genie is trying to copy. We are a long ways away from even Ford, but we're heading in the right direction.
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posted November 09, 2003 01:07 PM        
Fish,
I urge you to check out the many fine choices from the Canadian auto industry. Their products are specifally suited to Canadian tastes.

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posted November 09, 2003 01:09 PM        
What are Canadian tastes?
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posted November 09, 2003 01:09 PM        
how about a nice clean hydrid car! (yeah, that'll happen)
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posted November 09, 2003 01:18 PM        
The way I read it is that Canadians don't deserve the best
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posted November 09, 2003 02:26 PM        
Scooter.............that's a great lookin outfit you have there. Boy.......I wouldn't have any complaints about 15-17 mpg haulin that trailer and bikes down to Georgia with ANY kind of SUV.......or diesel equipped truck. That's good mileage.
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posted November 09, 2003 03:05 PM        
Don't forget that amazing Canadian aerospace industry! Boeing and Airbus ain't got nuthin on them!
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