mattie_k
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posted September 14, 2003 10:04 AM
Invest in some "crash bungs" or frame sliders, or whatever they are called in your neck of the woods. They are worth the hundred dallors when your bike is sliding down the road. But really, take some good advise and go get yourself a older (1996-1998) 600cc machine, or a SV cause twins are cool. Any of these bikes are good tools to learn on and you won't any time soon be able to out ride it, so keep it a few years.
First thing you should do for sure is take a MSF course. Then get your liscence and get all the seat time you can (rain or shine, day or night) because its all about experience. Riding 20 miles through a dark and rainy night might not seem like a good time at first but you can learn some good lessons. After you get some experience go do some track days and find out the limits of your machine in a safe environment, it will probably be pretty fun too.
So after a couple of years and many miles of experience later, step up to a 9R or the latest and greatest. Have fun, play safe!
Just my 2 cents.
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zxfingyz
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posted September 15, 2003 08:06 AM
At 5'10 210 at 19 yrs it might be safe to say you are a big dude.
I bought the starter bike when I was your age and out grew it in 1 month.
My thought is go take the MSF course NOW. They will give you the small bike to work on there and you will see for sure what that is like. Then go and buy the biggest bike you can get. Now, being 19, if you are half as stupid as I was at 19 you will be placing yourself in danger no matter what size bike you get. I am now 33 and still have the wildest battles in my head between the " go go go now!" reptile brain and the "consequence, consequence, consequence!" middle aged man side of my brain. They are both right. That makes it hard. Learn as much as you can about how to handle the bike under adversity and learn that is ok to separate your ego from the throttle and you will be better off. The big bike might be the best bet because if you get good at drinking beer and eating double beef woppers like me you are going to need a big bike to hide your fat ass, like me.
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted September 15, 2003 11:13 AM
lmfao@ ZX......so you use your bike to hide your ass eh......3 words for ya...Buns Of Steel.......lol
I use my ZX6R for the track, adn for the mountains...and my 600 has enough power to haul ass with me on it (5'9 190lbs). Just needs more twist of the wrist...Grante dit doesnt get off the line like the 12...but you can only go so fast on the street, and around corners....just my .02 worth/...
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ScaredyCat
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posted September 15, 2003 11:15 AM
Redelk, give us a fucking break!
Lost, just get a ZX12, it's a fanny-magnet. You'll have more pussy than you can beat off with a shitty stick.
Apart from that, it's not really very slow too.
'nuff said.
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aliveagain
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posted September 15, 2003 11:17 AM
8 out 10 accidents I had on the bike were because I was riding over my head or not riding safely.I learned on a 76 Honda 750four in the parking lot of Great Lakes Naval base.My recomendation would be to get a trail bike and practice on the grass.Find out befor hand about skidding and falling off on something a little more forgiving.I don't know you,but for myself,I was not mature enough to have in those days a bigger bike.I opened her up at night and panic braked when I saw a parked car in my lane and dumped it.My point being any kind of power I had,I would use it.If I was riding with other people and they were riding over my skill level,Iwould still try to keep up.It was easy for me to get caught up in the moment.A man's got to know his limits- Clint Eastwood
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted September 15, 2003 11:40 AM
i had a 75 CB750 four, when I was in high school, it was a blast........
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Scooter
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posted September 16, 2003 12:44 AM
Hmm, Lost, your exactly my size but I'm twice as old. I've been riding since I was 6 and made plenty of mistakes.
You'll most likely need a MSF certificate in order to get your license. My wife did. Pick up some books on riding skills. I can recomend a few.
1) Get some good gear. The best you can afford. Tarmac tatoos are no fun. Watch for clearance sales from AGV, or Fieldsheer. There's some nice stuff in the major magazine ads if you keep your eye open, visit their websites. Make the colors neutral so you dont end up with a yellow set of leathers on a green bike a year or two from now when you trade up. Wait for the color matched set when you can afford it.
2) good lid as well, but remember, your gonna need a new faceshield sooner or later. Check the prices on replacements, a purple mirror replacement for mine is $70, ouch. You'll need something snug, almost to the point of being tight. Most "newbies" inadvertently buy a lid that's too big. It shouldn't move around on your head easily.
3)Check insurance rates before you buy. pick a couple models and ask your agent. Then take the same list to several other agents. Until your 30, sportbikes are gonna be high, way high. My wifes SV650S is 5 times what her ZR7 was. Now if it were a SV650(no "S") it would've been less since it isn't considered a "sportbike" even though thay're basically the same. On the same token my ZRX premium is less than 1/3 of my ZX12's.
4) Consider an enduro, KLR, DR-Z etc. They can be big fun in the twisties. and wont cost you if they tip over. Plus you'll learn some very valuable skills sliding around on some dirt roads/trails.
5) Buy used. You want a nice well maintained bike that you wont take the initial loss on. You may save enough to be able to afford to keep it when you eventually upgrade. Then you got a beater bike to ride on those days it might rain, especially if its an enduro. Just look at the going rates for clean '00 12Rs, they were $12K new.
6)Ride within your limits and know that they are probably much lower than you think they are. Just as you confidence soars, BAM, reality check.
7)Don't waste a bunch of money on mods for your first bike, save it for upgrading to your next. If you buy used, it'll likely have the mods already done.
Look for a used SV650, I love riding my wife's, fun factor is great. I'd like to have one for myself. If you prefer a 4 cyl a ZR7 is nice, Yamaha Seca. KLR or another enduro would be a wise choice, prices are right, and the dirt factor is a huge bonus. Dont get something too small you'll outgrow right away either. Endless supply on E Bay.
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Lost
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posted September 16, 2003 12:07 PM
I really apreciate all the information you guys have been giving out to me.Like i said when i first got here i just want to learn and i want to ride.Don't get me wrong though i will admit when the time is right and i have the proper skill and experience i have a couple mustangs to shut up,but hey who doesnt have a cocky person in a car to smack down every now and then right?I am in the process of looking into gear right now i want to get all of that done and knocked out of the way first that right now is the most important part.I am really liking the what i am reading and seeing about the SV750,But as i sit right now my dream street bike is the ZX12R and by god there will be one in the drive way some day down the road thats just the god's honest truth of it.Until then though i really do greatly apreciate all the information and all the advice from you guys i am looking forward to meeting some of you guys later on down the road.
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HDL i would have gotten ahold of you using that paltalk but the damn thing has been on the fritz for me and i have no clue whats wrong with it.I will get it to work here soon though and i'll find ya on there somehow man,Talk atcha later.
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted September 16, 2003 12:56 PM
Cool beans Drew.....if I am not online, leave a message, adn I wil lholler at you as soon as I get online....later dude.....
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Lost
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posted September 17, 2003 08:48 PM
I tried to partner but i guess my coomputer was acting real stupid or something.Just drop me a line next time your on and i will give you a holla back or bullshit with ya then.
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1bad12r
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posted September 18, 2003 05:20 AM
Welcome Lost !!!!!!
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Lost
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posted September 18, 2003 11:10 AM
Thank you much i apreciate the warm welcome i have gotten so far.
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