MarkZX12RKX500
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posted July 26, 2003 11:09 PM
 Edited By: MarkZX12RKX500 on 29 Jul 2003 22:05
(((I am getting mixed answers turbo?((READ ME)))
I don't know what to do turbo or pc,pipe and custom map.
My friend works at a motorcycle shop and has a custom map
that will get me 180 hp and then spray it.well I don't want nos he tells me stay away from the turbo well what do you all think, their is a couple of draw backs on the turbo
lag,price and their is few good things. HELP, any of you ever use a turbo.
  
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Lorcan
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posted July 27, 2003 12:27 AM
Turbos are money pits. I love 'em 
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your car is slow
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posted July 27, 2003 09:20 AM
Why dont you want Nitrous? From you calling it "NOS" im going to assume you dunno shit about it and learned about it perhaps from watching Biker Boys..or fast and the furious?
Why not educate yourself on all types of power adders before you make your decision?
If nitrous didnt work...people wouldnt use it.
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MarkZX12RKX500
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posted July 27, 2003 10:12 AM
Edited By: MarkZX12RKX500 on 27 Jul 2003 11:56
your car is slow, your right i don't know fuck about NOS, I had it on my vette and it fucked the motor up and yes it did work for a while,thats why I don't like it.
It's just that i had bad luck with it and want to stay away from it.
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aliveagain
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posted July 27, 2003 06:18 PM
With that kind of horsepower,Iwould take a good look at your riding habits.A turbo on the street,you'd better be sure of your riding abillity.
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vozizm
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posted July 27, 2003 07:38 PM
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MarkZX12RKX500
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posted July 27, 2003 07:58 PM
Edited By: MarkZX12RKX500 on 27 Jul 2003 21:15
Yes I realize this; I only have 1000miles on it and already trying to take it to the extreme.
I might just get a pipe, air filter and a good map and wait on the turbo for next summer I would love to see what a turbo would do too this thing then again it could make it to quick for me and end up flipping it going from fast to extreme too quick.
I am thinking though, couldn't I set the boost really low to start out until I get the hang of it?
I FOUND THIS POST.
I had the swing arm extended 6" longer, because the bike was not ride able (5th gear wheelies).
(((Not ride able LOL)))
Maybe I should think twice about this 5th gear wheelies WOW.
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entropy
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posted July 28, 2003 01:40 AM
5th gear wheelies????
huh???
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted July 28, 2003 03:27 AM
<----isnt riding anything that pulls 5th gear wheelies.....lol, ok maybe I would....
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your car is slow
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Fuck Nitrous...Got Boost?
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posted July 28, 2003 07:30 AM
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your car is slow, your right i don't know fuck about NOS, I had it on my vette and it fucked the motor up and yes it did work for a while,thats why I don't like it.
Perhaps you should educate yourself a bit more on mods prior to paying someone to install them for you.
You do realize that nitrous does the EXACT same thing as a turbo or supercharger....it simply does it chemically instead of mechanically. Its perfectly safe if you know what you are doing.
That being said..it would seem you simply want to get a turbo just because it "sounds like a nifty idea and will truly increase my poser status to unequaled levels".....not because you have done any sort of research on the subject. So you should go that route.
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MarkZX12RKX500
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posted July 28, 2003 07:25 PM
Edited By: MarkZX12RKX500 on 28 Jul 2003 20:47
QUOTE;
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That being said. it would seem you simply want to get a turbo just because it "sounds like a nifty idea and will truly increase my poser status to unequaled levels".....not because you have done any sort of research on the subject.
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Research on the subject well that's what I am doing now I haven't bought anything yet
It just seams like the ecomical way to go. I am going to wait until next summer and just get a pipe, air filter and a good map I need to think this out and research it more also make sure this is what I want.
Anyhow thanks for your thought's >your car is slow< (my car-vette was not) 502cid 8.2 $4995crate motor 450hp stock, 750 Holley. I upgraded it with a .620/lift crane roller hydraulic cam, kit triple valve springs, fluid damper harmonic balancer $1100, silicon forged pistons looped compression from 9.0 to 10.5 to 1, roller rockers, stainless valves boron nuts and studs for rods, nuts are 10 grams lighter each than stock, high torque starter victor jr manifold 1100cmf, electric water pump 190+mph and your off to see the Wizard! This is what I replaced the 350cid with that NOS killed; don't get it wrong I liked the NOS just too much.Since the vette I have pulled the motor and going to put it in a 55 belair with all corvette
suspension,17"goodyear eagles 13"front disc zr1 vette rotors rack and pinion steer aluminum a-arms rear independent suspension all polished.
Back to the bike.
It just seams like the ecomical way to go.
NORMALLY ASPIRATED ENGINE
PARTS
Crank - Stock -
Rods - Stock -
Pistons - 12.5 : 1 $725.00
Valves, over size $664.00
V. Springs $179.95
Cams $399.95
Carbs $750.00
Header $595.00
Port Work $1400.00
Slotted Cam Sprockets $59.95
Sleeves $279.80
LABOR
Engine assy & Diss 875.00
Comp. valve job 265.00
Cyl. boring and honing 150.00
Mill cyl. head 75.00
Bore crank case/o.s. sleeves 125.00
Install oversize sleeves 160.00
CARB TOTAL: $ 6,703.65
TURBO ENGINE
PARTS
Crank - Stock $0.00
Rods - Stock $0.00
Pistons - Stock $0.00
Valves - Stock $0.00
V. Springs - Stock $0.00
Cams - Stock $0.00
Carb - Turbo / Mikuni $0.00
Header - Turbo $0.00
Portwork - None $0.00
Turbo Kit - Turbo $5000.00
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LABOR
Labor - Turbo Kit Installation $500.00
-and 3 heavy duty clutch springs cost?
TURBO TOTAL: $ 5500.00
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your car is slow
Needs a job
Fuck Nitrous...Got Boost?
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posted July 28, 2003 08:00 PM
Nitrous
$450 Kit delivered
$.50 resistor
2hrs (max) install time
so..thats a "bolt on" 220+ hp (depending on how big a jet you want to use) for less than 500 bucks.
How on earth can you see a turbo as more economical?
Its your dime chief...I wish you the best of luck.
(if it was me...id have a huge motor...AND a turbo )
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mrfast
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posted July 28, 2003 08:05 PM
Keep it simple and reliable, Pipe,Power commander, 1270 piston kit(Muzzys),stock head,crank,trans and cams will give you 190-195 HP.I have ran this combo for 8000 miles and it still impresses me.
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dougmeyer
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posted July 28, 2003 08:06 PM
Mark,
A few things-
There are no sleeves
There are no carbs
There is no need for big valves
You don't need to bore the cases
Somebody please help this man out.
Doug
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kawachan
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posted July 28, 2003 08:24 PM
And where did you get those prices??
Slotted cam sprockets for $60?!
Cams for $400?! More like 1200...
Believe me....the turbo will cost WAY more than that before you will be satisfied with it. Sure it will have lots of HP, but will it be rideable? Boost controller, stronger clutch, longer arm, power commander, NOS for the turbo, lower comp pistons, billet crank, the list goes on and on......and turbo bikes are very.....how should I say it......maintenance intensive!!
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your car is slow
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posted July 29, 2003 05:32 AM
hehe...I giggled at the "3 heavy duty clutch springs" listed under the turbo mods (among other things)
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ninja12
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posted July 29, 2003 10:44 AM
Did you miss the $750 carbs?
This is going to be a learning experience for someone.
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted July 29, 2003 11:45 AM
and take the bike to Kcadby so he can make lots of money off ya.....CARBS??? on a ZX12R??? Did I miss something? Doug, this guy is in way over his head...thought I was the unknowledgeable one on the board...guess not anymore.
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your car is slow
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posted July 29, 2003 11:56 AM
Tell ya what....Ill change your entire bike from carbs to fuel injection for half that $750 the guy quoted you in your research. That way itll make it MUCH easier to tune.
This is of course...a Bikeland.org special
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aliveagain
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posted July 29, 2003 05:37 PM
A little hard on the guy,no?I met a guy who has a turbo on a 1100 suzuki and he says he has to watch real carefully on the throttle.Either it'll break loose or wheelie straight up in the triple digit speeds,this is why I said you'd better know your riding skills.There's a reason there's not a lot of turbo's out there.Don't forget the 12's piston are high compression.What kind of riding and speed do you do,or is this just for street racing?
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MarkZX12RKX500
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posted July 29, 2003 08:51 PM
Edited By: MarkZX12RKX500 on 29 Jul 2003 22:09
OK thanks guys now I am getting some real answers out of you all, and where did you get those prices from mr.turbo I will probley stay away from a turbo someone here suggested I get a turbo I have 5k from my kx from the insurance company that I can put into the bike.
This is how this all started From a post I posted a week ago read below
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MarkZX12RKX500
What kind of pipe ?
Muzzy or Yoshimura or is their better, (model of pipe also) I am ordering the power comander PC IIIr $399.00 also what air filter system should I use?
Besides this stuff what else should I do to it. I got 5k to put into the bike.
There is no emission test's here where I live.
Where do you all order you shit at?
thanks for your input.
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frEEk
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Posts: 2522 posted July 24, 2003 07:47 PM
hey mark. ur best bet is to search thru old posts. there are prolyl horus of discussions on the topic of pipes. re the pc3... u can get a better price than that. SPencer cycle comes in at about $70 less i believe. he's got some good packages with pipe, PC, and filters or something too.
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harryzx-12
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Posts: 1643 posted July 24, 2003 07:50 PM
If your gonna put 5K into it I would consider a turbo.
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your car is slow
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Fuck Milk...Got Nitrous?
Posts: 1781 posted July 24, 2003 08:24 PM
No doubt...for that kinda cheese...turbo all the way
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MarkZX12RKX500
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Posts: 61 posted July 24, 2003 08:32 PM
Ok so if I did buy a mr. turbo kit thats all I need leave it stock and the turbo?
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harryzx-12
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Posts: 1643 posted July 25, 2003 04:05 AM
Fuck a mr. turbo. NLR or Velocity would be much better.
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TurboBlew
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Posts: 1147 posted July 25, 2003 05:31 AM
Ah...the only real player with a "ture" street kit is Velocity right now. McXpress kits are not being imported because of the high exchange rate.
Some assembly required...hehe. And the system retails a bit more than $5,000. More like $5900 PLUS about 2 days to install it.
The MrTurbo kit is pathetic. You'd do better and get more hp from a Muzzy stealth nitrous kit for 1/4 of the price.
Can you handle all the hp??
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TurboBlew
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Posts: 1147 posted July 25, 2003 05:32 AM
Oh and for pipes... Try the Arata. Full ti system. Nice
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necro
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posted July 29, 2003 09:07 PM
Stay away from turbos
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted July 30, 2003 11:58 AM
i like my Muzzy pipe, but I think if anything ever happens to it, I am going to try either a Micron, or and akro..
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