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ScaredyCat


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posted July 01, 2003 09:50 AM        
Where's the cat? and stuff

Is the catalytic converter in the end can? If it is, do you get a drop in backpressure by just changing the end can for an aftermarket, free-flowing one?
And does the Fi get screwed up by just changing the can - it adds a lot to the price when I see all this talk of Power Commanders etc.
I'd like to change the pipe (my Kawasaki dealer told me I could get 20 bhp extra, but I don't believe it).

And any tips for getting burnt-on shoe-rubber off of the original can?! The leg-iron has stopped wearing her good shoes on the bike now, hehehe.

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posted July 01, 2003 10:27 AM        
its not in the can..its just below where the can bolts to the midpipe in the midpipe itself.

If you remove the can and look into the midpipe you will see it.
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ScaredyCat


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posted July 01, 2003 11:09 AM        
YCIS,
Thanks, that clears things up for me - now I understand why it's causing such a restriction. Is it easy to pull out? Not that I'm anti-green, I just don't like my bike being laden down with government regs that I didn't vote for.
Any idea about fuelling mods required if I ditch the cat and put on a free-flowing (i.e. race ish) can?

PS thanks for all your answers to my stupid questions Your Car Is Slow, you da Man.
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posted July 01, 2003 11:52 AM        
Yea..at least im doing SOMETHING at work today

Anyway...take off the canister...and take a bigoll screwdriver and start digging that shit out from the sides inward...just stab it or hit it or whever floats your boat.

Then once youve removed most of the large chunks...fire up the bike with the can off and give it a blip or two (cover your ears). Itll blow the rest of the crap out that you jammed down into the pipe

While you have the canister off look inside it where it bolted to the midpipe...you will see a titanium baffle...if you can get a sharp chisel or long screwdriver or drillbit...punch a few holes in that if possible..also good for a few ponies up top
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ScaredyCat


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posted July 01, 2003 12:02 PM        
OK - before I get the hammer out, do I need fuelling changes for this?
(he says, rummaging for a hammer and chisel).
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posted July 01, 2003 12:26 PM        
*shrug...its likely to run a bit leaner...but I doubt its enough to matter.

Have a Powercommander? add a click or two to the high range.
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posted July 01, 2003 08:07 PM        
I took mine off and it runs fine. It really helped the pipe to not be so crazy freaking hot.

The easy way to get it off is with a sawsall. If you saw it right up next to the flange it will take the whole thing off. It will scar up the flange, but it can't be seen with the cannister on anyway.
If the tree huggers ever manage to get a sniffer inspection law in my state I could rig the cat back in the pipe too.


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posted July 02, 2003 04:33 AM        
Hi ScaredyCat! This topic, as well as a few other cheap/free mods for a few more horses is covered in the following thread. These are popular and easy mods, and even has PICTURES!!!!

http://www.zx-12r.org/Motorcycle_info/Information%20Pages/PopularLA12MODS.htm

It covers the following topics:

1. Removing the Catalytic converter.
2. Modifying the stock CAN.
3. Removing the Clean Air System.
4. Modifying the Air Filters.
5. Advancing the Ignition Timing.
6. Setting the TPS.
7. Fitch Fuel catalyst.

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claude


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posted July 02, 2003 11:45 AM        
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The easy way to get it off is with a sawsall. If you saw it right up next to the flange it will take the whole thing off. It will scar up the flange, but it can't be seen with the cannister on anyway. If the tree huggers ever manage to get a sniffer inspection law in my state I could rig the cat back in the pipe too.

Wildman, because I'm curious, I am wondering at how much weight is removed when the cat is gutted. I know it is very small but anyway... Most guys remove it with pipe still on the bike so they can not weight the collector before and after (neither can they weight all the pieces and bits that flew away during the process...). However, because of your post, I understand that you removed your cat in one single whole piece? If I am getting it right, could it be possible for you to weight this piece of cat? Thanks a lot!

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posted July 02, 2003 05:35 PM        
Its only ounces nothing to get too wound up about.
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ScaredyCat


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posted July 04, 2003 10:21 AM        
I reckon it's easier to go with a full system, although I quite like the look of the stock system. I'm gonna start saving my piggy bank.
I'm just a bit concerned about fuelling - is the Fi clever enough to work out what's happened with an aftermarket (or full race) pipe?
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posted July 04, 2003 10:30 AM        Edited By: your car is slow on 4 Jul 2003 11:30
no

itll run..but wont run all that well
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posted July 06, 2003 04:33 AM        
So it's Power Commander for any exhaust changes?
Damn those green tree huggers.


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