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posted June 09, 2003 11:36 AM
Experiences @ The Gap this past weekend....
Well fellas I had a wild experience that could have been very ugly. I guess years of seat time may have been the only thing that saved me and my new bride's skin.
I took my bud's new ZRX1200 with us to ride during our stay at Townsend. We took the bike to the Gap and were having an excellent ride. The big Rex is an excellent 2-up machine. Tooling thru the gap at a moderate pace required using 2nd and 3rd gear only.  We were running a great pace for 2-up, nothing insane mind you, but definitely not boring by any stretch of the imagination. The bike was well behaved and did everything you told it to do with nary a whimper.........until about 3/4ths of the way to the store. We rounded a real tight right hander and the rear just washed WAY out on the bike. I had to give it gobs of throttle to keep from highsiding. Needless to say it got our attention. I figured our pace had taxed the 020s so I went easy for a few corner to let the tire cool and got the marbles off before I leaned on them again. Same deal, rear washed way out!!! Well then I said screw this I'm gonna baby the thing to the store and see what is going on. The next turn, not even pushing the thing, it slides again!!! So then I just basically came to a crawl, lifted my visor and yelled back at Gina and said "I think we've got a flat tire". Then I told her to look and see if she could tell if the tire was down. She looked but couldn't really tell if it was or wasn't. So I'm thinking DAMN!!!!! A FREAKIN' FLAT, this is going to mess up our day bigtime. I didn't pull over because I was afraid if I did I'd be stranded for sure. As long as the bike would limp along at 25mph I was gonna keep going.
Well when we got to the store and got off the bike I took my foot and pressed on the tire. It had plenty of air in it??? Yeah, the rubber was balled up on it, and you could tell it had been hot, but nothing that woulda caused the kinda slides we experienced. I was standing there trying to figure out what the deal was when a few guys that were at the store asked if we'd ran into any of the TRANSMISSION FLUID that some guy in a truck had put down on the road!!!! I said "Well that explains a lot" and told them what had happened. They told me how lucky I was that I didn't ditch the bike. I told them they had no idea of how damned sideways I had that bike. About that time a young guy with an icepack on his shoulder came over to talk with me. Turns out he highsided his R6 in the stuff and was pretty sure he'd broken his collarbone. You could tell he was hurting pretty bad. He said man how did you save the bike riding 2-up??? I told him I layed the gas to it. It's the only thing that saved me I guess. He said he chopped the throttle and that's what got him. I felt for the guy of course, but was really glad that I kept my cool and didn't panic. I'm a little upset that within a couple weeks I've been tested twice. First the 90lb. dog, then tranny fluid on the gap whilst riding a borrowed bike. I'm happy both deals didn't end with me and the little lady getting hurt, but geesh I don't like the close calls. Especially this close together.
My second experience was with a Blount County deputy. I'll try and keep this one a little shorter. Long and short of it was that I was late braking a few autos and passing in areas I shouldn't have been.  I had plenty of room mind you, and didn't do anything crazy, but deputy dog was pissed!!!! He pulled me over just as I was entering Townsend. Turns out he was trying to run me down from the exit of the Foothills, thru the canyon , but didn't catch me until we were well into Townsend. He was in the midst of clearing me a spot out in the back of his cruiser when I told him I was on my honeymoon and that I'd really appreciate a break. I didn't deny anything, I told him I knew I was fucking up. (In his eyes anyway ) He then told me to go back and stand by the bike. He wrote me a warning ticket and then gave me a summarized version of what I'd say is the Blount County's take on bikers, or shall I say "Sportbikers". It ain't good fellas, they've got a major "Woody" for us over there. He also stressed the fact that I would now be on file as a recepient of a warning ticket and that no other breaks would be given to me. Also not good. I have got to exercise some MAJOR discipline the next time I'm over there. My license are already hanging by a thread, not to mention WTF my insurance rates are about to do. 
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posted June 09, 2003 11:56 AM
Glad things weren't worse with Gina on the back Rick and as far as having MAJOR discipline when you're there with us? Yeah right.
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posted June 09, 2003 12:04 PM
Honestly.......
Chris, I'm serious dude. My wallet, nor my license, can take anymore punishment. I'm a little down about it.
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posted June 09, 2003 12:05 PM
Glad everythink came out ok in the end for you and gina. Next time we do the blue ridge ridge parkway to ashville we'll surely ride back at a moderate pace! To borrow Otis's words " Yeah Right" It'll be like the fuckin Isle of Mann TT as usual! How many times have we said we're goin to take it easy this time? Our luck can't last forever!
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posted June 09, 2003 12:26 PM
Yeah.....
That's what I'm talking about Harry. Our luck CAN'T last forver. One of these days they're gonna throw our asses under the jail!!!!! I heard the "Heat" isn't that bad around TWO, It may be time for me to check that area out.
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posted June 09, 2003 01:33 PM
Rick glad to hear everything work out o.k. with you all on the trip down here. It sounds like you all had a great time to bad you did not have time to stop by the house.I have told you fucker time and time again when you are in this area keep your speed down maybe 5 or 10 over but that is it.Out of 5 dg ride's you should know the law is all over down here that why my driving record is clean i keep my speed at the wright mph at all times.Maybe dg6 you chill out and ride my pace that way you will not have to watch out for Johnny law all the dan time.That was just a tip from your old uncle Larry.Later you sonofabicth.
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posted June 09, 2003 02:14 PM
explain something to a poor semi-newbie sob here. when u say u kept the throttle pinned to avoid a highside, u jsut mean u didnt let off so it catches u right? but u dont actually pin it right? i'd think that would make u slide more. so u just keep er steady & steer into it right? that seems to be more or less my natural reaction, but i'f never nbeen into an extended sideways slide so i dont know what i'd do in that situation. always just been a short lived tail slide. went motocross with the foot out once and it actually saved it! i was sure i was a goner soon as i stuck the foot out cause i know ur not supposed to do that. was mucho gravel.
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posted June 10, 2003 02:33 AM
Lucky! You are one messed up dude. LOL "I keep my speed at the right mph at all times" ?????? Oh man that's funny. I PERSONALLY have seen you break the law brother. It's all good.
Freek, that's exactly why you stay on the throttle. If you chop it, you highside. Keeping the throttle pinned is probably not the best expression cause if you pinned the throttle it'd probably spit you off anyway. If you feel yourself in a rear slide, don't let off on the gas, just give it a tad bit more and ride it out brother. That's what ninjachickenchoker is trying to say.
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posted June 10, 2003 04:56 AM
Clearification.....
No when I say pinned, I mean pinned. Being that I was riding 2-up on a stock ZRX1200 and not keeping the motor buzzed real high I had to roll the throttle to the stop. I was running in 3rd gear (when slides happened) trying keeping things smooth to make the ride enjoyable for Gina. No heavy braking, and no really wicked up exits. Just carrying good corner speed to keep the bike from lugging down to low. I only geared the bike down in second on some of the real tight switchbacks. You know how it is when you have a passenger. I was just trying to keep everything smooth. It was Gina's first trip to the Gap and I wanted her to be able to really enjoy it.
Had I been keeping the REX on the pipe it'd been a different story. If I had been in second I'd have had to feathered the gas, but with the revs low I had to really give it a drink to make the bike slide out of it. If we'd been on the 12R I'd hate to think of what'd happened. She and I can roll pretty good on Lil' Red because that's what we're used to riding. Plus there is a ton more power on tap with the 12. I don't know if I'd been able to save it in all honesty, and frankly it has just occurred to me that hitting that dog may have really happened for a reason that I just realized. If I hadn't hit that dog and damaged my bike that's what we'd have been on during our trip. We still could've taken it because the damage is only cosmetic. But I opted to park the bike until the insurance people settle up with me, just to be on the safe side. Plus when my buddy Steve offered to loan us his new ZRX for the trip I figured it'd be a better bike for 2-up riding over there anyhow. Makes me kinda think that someone may be watching over me. Gotta be happy about that.
Now on to my boy Lucky. 5 0R 10 MPH OVER !!!!! Why don't you tell someone who actually believes that horseshit!!!! You are full of shit junior. I think there are a few more guys here that can back me up on this one. Need I remind you of your buddy "Mr. THP" that was out in the middle of the road during one of our rides. You crazy fucker, you ain't right!!!
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posted June 10, 2003 06:25 AM
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First off, I wish to say glad you and your new bride were unhurt. x2 I'd say.
Now, now, what Mark is saying is that there is a time and a place for everything. I've been behind Mark on roads where he never passed a car much less went very fast. Elk and I are the same way: there are some places where you just don't wick it up unless you want to goad the cops to stop you. But others: Turn it up, baby.
Mark is local and he knows where the cops are heavy and where you can push it. Personally, I wouldn't push the Blue Ridge Parkway.
Now, as far as the "someone watching over me" thing - it really is amazing the thread by which we all hang, isn't it?
Rick, I know how you feel considering my 170 mph deal with tail pack. Everything clicked just right to keep me upright.
But you know, we just aren't wired like 'normal' folks. I'm convinced of that. I think any of us would rather get cornholed by Harry than live a boring life of golf every weekend.
With a sense of smugness I know in one weekend I have lived more than most people do in half a year. And yes, I do feel a bit superiour because of that. Any of us here on the board fit nicely into that category, I believe.
Ever watch "Fight Club"? That's close to what I feel. There's one scene where Tyler Durden (Brad Pitt) puts a gun to a guys head and asks him what he wanted to be when he grew up. He wanted to be a veterinarian but he was working in a convenient store. Durden then tells him he'll visit him in 6 months and if he's not on his way to being a veterinarian he'll kill him. Durden takes his drivers license, puts it in his pocket, and lets the guy go.
He says, "His day will be the best day of his life tomorrow. The sun will shine brighter, the people around him will become more valuable, his cornflakes will taste better."
Many religions have themes of being 'born again' but any of us who have had close calls like that, I think, have in truth been born again. When you escape being hurt as such how can you describe it as anything but?
If God watches over children and fools, then probably we qualify as both which explains why we are still here.
So, young newly-married man, what are you going to do with the rest of your life? Been considering what's 'really' important, yet?
Man. I think this qualifies as an "Elk-like" post.
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posted June 10, 2003 06:52 AM
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**"Now, now, what Mark is saying is that there is a time and a place for everything. I've been behind Mark on roads where he never passed a car much less went very fast."**
YEs, we experienced this from him too and at the first stop we promptly DEMOTED him from being the leader. LOL It's all in love brother.
***"I wouldn't push the Blue Ridge Parkway"**
We NEVER speed on the parkway! :wink:
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posted June 10, 2003 08:07 AM
I can top that...........
Not only do we never speed on BRP, we never speed PERIOD!!!!!!!!!
If you're gonna lie fellas, lie big. Oh yeah and fuck you little altar boy bitches with the "I'm really a good law abidding rider AT TIMES" horseshit!!!!! The entire lot of you fuckers overflows with HOOLIGANISM and that's the end of this conversation.
I'm the only saint in this crowd. 
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posted June 10, 2003 08:08 AM
Edited By: Otis on 10 Jun 2003 09:09
Yeah, Saint Isuckalotadick
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posted June 10, 2003 08:38 AM
You got me fucked up..........
No, I'm Saint I'llbeatthefuckoutofyourpunkyankeeass. Let's get that straight Jr.
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posted June 10, 2003 09:40 AM
Rick you know i just call them like i see them and you are way out of line.The only time lil red is not breaking the law is when the motherfucker park.Can i get a amen on that.Me on the other hand i just like to cruz with the top down. Everyone that rides with us told me you needed to be drug tested asab cause you are fuck up in the head.NOW GO BACK TO WORK AND SHUT THE HELL UP.
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posted June 10, 2003 10:23 AM
This hurts me more than you'll ever know.....
No comment............
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posted June 10, 2003 10:25 AM
You tell him brother! That fucker is a law breakin ' mofo for sure. Shit I bet ol' cleatus is chasin him at home every week.
Hey did you call me a few days ago Mark? My wife said there was a partial message on our answering machine and it for sure was a southern fella. She know's Harry's and Rick's voice and for sure Bart can't be mistaken for southern so I figured it must have been you. I'm home tongiht after 4:30 call me brother.
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posted June 10, 2003 10:36 AM
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...any of us would rather get cornholed by Harry...
finally the truth about the smackhouse crew comes out!
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posted June 10, 2003 11:15 AM
Goddamned low blow for sure........
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...any of us would rather get cornholed by Harry...
finally the truth about the smackhouse crew comes out!
Freek that is messed up dude, friggin' sick!!!! Who said that shit??? Jon???? Whoever said it please retract that statement. Freek doesn't need that kinda ammo, and it's making the smackhouse boyz look like girlz. 
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posted June 10, 2003 11:37 AM
Freek please "Shut the fuck up" You little canadian cockbite.
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posted June 10, 2003 12:47 PM
Get to work, Ninjagirly. You know you are a friggin' hooligan from hell. Inciting Otis to late brake a school bus. *sigh*
Kids these days.....
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posted June 11, 2003 08:52 AM
Tranny fluid! Damn that pisses me off and I wasn't even there. Somebody would be totin' a extra large ass whoopin if I saw that. Ruby and I are bringing the bikes and the girls down next week for a little R&R (ridin & recreation). The girls want to ride the Gap while we're there. Just thinking about what would happen....makes my blood boil. Glad you guys were OK and you had the wits to pull out of it.
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The only time lil red is not breaking the law is when the motherfucker park.Can i get a amen on that.
(from the back pew...) A-MEN!!
Rick, send your buddy over to zrxoa.org
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posted June 11, 2003 09:02 AM
Scooter.....
I'm wondering what the standard tweaks are to a stock ZRX1200. I'm sure you know a few. Steve is not ready for anything major, but why not optimize what is there.
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posted June 11, 2003 04:08 PM
You know, now that I think about it - what that fucker putting transmission fluid down or was it coming off of his truck?
If someone saw him putting it down he should be reported to the police and notify the insurance companies, I suppose.
But in reality someone should just kick his sorry ass into next week. Fuck da police.
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posted June 11, 2003 10:54 PM
Standard fare on a ZRX
1)Muzzy megaphone(or other pipe of your choice)
2)K&N's (pods, 4 of 'em, you'll never get the airbox back in htere anyway, that is IF you got it out without using a sawzall)
3)STG 3 Jetting(Ivan's or FP)
4)Steering damper
5)Hacked rear fender
6)fork brace
7)Corbin
8)signal stalks removed
9)Muzzy cams(ZX11 cams on the 1100)
10)taller windscreen(ZG,Givi etc.)
11)mirror extenders
Rule no. 1...... no ZRX stays stock for very long.
0$ mods.
1)shorten the sigs
2)remove the reflector under the tail light, flip the lic plate bracket, put it in place of the reflector and saw off the mudflap.
low$ mod
3)buy a used S/O(full pipe will come later, don't waste money on a new S/0)
4)remove the plugs from the carbs and turn the screws out 2 1/2 - 3 turns
Tell your bud to check the ZRX message board, lots of stuff for sale and other stuff made by members.
http://www.zrxoa.org/forums/index.php?s=7dde05b716e943ccbae049c074985477
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