KirksterZX-12R
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posted November 24, 2001 07:46 PM
'02 ZRX1200R dealer's cost
I just found out the other day through some investigation that a '02 ZRX1200R is $6815 at dealers cost.
The a-holes I've been trying to deal with act like they're doing me a favor to "let one go" for $7,600.
I guess they don't realize that Kawasaki made 20,000 other ZRXs for sale this year. Oh yeah, and winter is coming on fast! HA HA HA HA HA HA!
   
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KawRider
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posted November 25, 2001 05:14 AM
Dealer's Cost
I think $785 profit is reasonable. What do you want, a free motorcycle?????
I do!
Got my 00 12R for $8640 out the door.. tax free in Germany.
Tim
00 12R
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BlackMandingoWarrior
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posted November 25, 2001 05:18 AM
 Edited By: BlackMandingoWarrior on 25 Nov 2001 05:20
KawRider.....
How did you do your avatar???
$8640 and no tax is a steal, when did you get it???
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KawRider
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posted November 25, 2001 08:11 AM
The Avatar is one of the "NEW" available ones that Fish or Freek added. It's a 9R but close enough. I bought my 12R this past spring... a left over 2000 model, With the German Mark rate and Tax-free it was a steal.
Tim
00 12R
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TurboBlew
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posted November 25, 2001 03:06 PM
Hmmmm Tim, yes thats an outstanding deal...but you still have to put up with the *Germans*...lol. At least you've got the Autobahn and that pay as you go racetrack deal!!
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KirksterZX-12R
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posted November 25, 2001 09:01 PM
No, I don't expect a free bike. But I do expect a fair deal. I could handle $7,600 for the ZRX if I was offered a reasonable trade-in. They offered me $7,150.
What do they expect? A free ZX-12R?
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KawRider
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posted November 26, 2001 09:21 AM
Edited By: KawRider on 26 Nov 2001 09:25
Trade-In
Yeah.... I feel your pain... but as Im sure you know... you always take it in the butt when you trade. I don't know why dealers (car and bike) can't just give people fair trade-in rates??? A-holes!!! I reccomend that you sell the bike privately, then walk in with cash.. well below what they say they would take.... I bet you will do much better that way! Why do you want to give up the 12 for a ZRX???? I do love the ZRX.... but nuthin compares to a 12R. I do see a few advantages with a ZRX:
1. Easier to work on engine. (Damn those 12R Fasteners!)
2. Maybe a bit cheaper to insure?
3. Much cheaper to fix, should it tip over or something like that.
4. Still fast enough to loose your license with.
ZRX Disadvantages:
1. Quite a few sport bikes can beat it.
2. Aerodynamic as a barn door.
3. Wheelies easier than a 12R (sorry... probably an
advantage)
4. Costs quite a few bucks to make it competitive
with a STOCK 12R.
12R Advantages:
1. Busa/everything out there stomping.
2. Handles great for a 1200.
3. Beautiful.... I get so many compliments.
4. 200MPH... need I say more?
5. Drag racing is more fun when you win.
Disadvantages:
1. Goes thru rear tires almost as fast as gas!
2. Wife might not appreciate the parts/tire bills that seem to roll in at an alarming rate.
3. That's about it.
Bottom line... both bikes rule, and the ZRX would be my next bike next to my 85 kaw turbo and 00 ZX12R if I was in the market for a 3rd.
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KirksterZX-12R
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posted November 26, 2001 01:49 PM
Well, I like the fact that you don't have to take the ZRX to warp speed to feel the torque. Everytime...and I mean EVERYTIME I am on the 12R I can't keep it below 170. I know where to get away with those speeds witout getting caught, but I can't help feeling like my luck is going to run out someday.
I have a 2year old girl and another on the way and I would like to see them grow up. I guess you start thinking differently when you are a daddy.
Besides, the ZRX is absolutely beautiful IMO, and 150 top end is very respectable for a "standard". I'm sure I'll miss the top end rush, but 150 is plenty fast.
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rick
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posted November 28, 2001 08:28 PM
zrx price
Don't laugh to hard about winter coming on as Kawasaki has free flooring (dealer pays no interest) until March on the ZRX . A dealer is not going to be to motivated to give it away just because there is snow on the ground. Now you want them to give up a bike that is not costing anything to keep and take money out of their checking account to pay for your trade which will probably be at their store until spring. What would motivate a dealer to do that? Think about it. Furthermore the dealers I know are not trying to rape anyone, quite the contrary they are just trying to make a decent living.
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KirksterZX-12R
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posted November 29, 2001 02:12 AM
geeez Rick, you sound like you must be a dealer. I guess to you $7,150 trade on a low mileage 12 in excellent condition is fair?
You and I both know they'll turn around and sell my bike for close to nine to someone. Even if they sold it at $8,150 (if I was stupid enough to give it to them for $7,150) They would make a grand.
I'm all for a dealer to make money and survive. They're not in business to break even and they're not in business to do favors. Who is? My thing is this: they paid the mechanic in the back making $15 bucks an hour (I asked him) to put the ZRX together for me. He had three hours in the bike. That's $45 bucks the way I figure it. The bike did not once sit on the showroom floor. No interest being paid there.
...then the fucking commenced. They gave me three different prices on trade-in and kept dicking around with the numbers. I told them if they were going to give me $7,150 for my bike, I'd give them $7,150 for theirs. Get the picture? With the money they'd make on my bike combined with the money they were making on theirs, It was an easy 2 grand for them. I guess the overhead on the new showroom must be such that now instead of everyone receiving a fair shake, you now get a complimentary ass-fucking.
I've bought 3 new bikes from that dealer and was trying for a fourth. I don't expect any special treatment because of that. Business is business. What I DO expect is to pay them a fair price and to receive a fair price. Nothing more and nothing less.
And Rick, I have tried to spell that out as eloquently as I can to you so your beady little eyes can understand. You sound like you have a lot in common with the guys where I last tried to deal. Couldn't find a job when Yugo went belly up? I really don't mean to flame since I really don't even know you, but if you can't understand all of this, you can just go get fucked.
...another Molson, please.
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Zx23rr
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posted November 29, 2001 03:52 PM
The Dealer
invests his time, money, and energy so that he/she can be in business to sell YOU a product with no net profit!!!
Give your head a shake.
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KirksterZX-12R
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posted November 30, 2001 01:23 AM
A Harley Dealer chiming in? Yeah, you boys REALLY know how to gouge people.
Give me a fucking break.
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TripodMeat
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posted November 30, 2001 03:00 PM
Edited By: TripodMeat on 30 Nov 2001 15:01
R-1 for a deal!!!
A local dealer, here in PHX,
has a new 2000 ( no miles ) R-1 for $8500
I know from past dealings, they would
take $8000 out the door, tax and all....
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KirksterZX-12R
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posted November 30, 2001 08:27 PM
I found a dealer an hour and a half ride from me who is selling ZRXs for $7,100 OTD. Once I sell my 12, I'll be making a trip!
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rick
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posted December 02, 2001 07:02 AM
A fair price is what the market will pay for your slightly used bike. If you do not like what the dealer is offering you then try to sell it yourself and get an education on the marketplace. By the way I have a slightly used red 2000 model that I will sell for $7500. Perhaps you would want to buy it and make a cool thousand or so. Step up to the plate.
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KirksterZX-12R
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posted December 02, 2001 01:58 PM
I'll put my johnson on the plate and then you can step up to that.
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Scooter
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posted December 03, 2001 05:58 AM
Edited By: Scooter on 4 Dec 2001 04:52
There was someone on the ZRX board looking for a ZX12R, if you'd consider used maybe you could work a deal on a trade, FWIW http://zrxoa.org/forums/
There isn't that much of a market for used 12R's, I only paid $9150 new(Mar '01), but I paid $7K for the '00 ZRX (Mar '00). If there's any way you can swing it go for both.
Edit: http://zrxoa.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3722
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team green
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posted February 15, 2002 10:28 AM
ZRX 1200 price
I bought my 01 zrx for $6995.00 + tax great deal I think. The 02 zrx is the same price.
I bought from New Milford cycle in connecticut. ask for GUS
No , I don't work for him.
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zrxzx12r1
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posted February 15, 2002 02:54 PM
Hey,
Have both, you should do the same if you can. The nice thing about the ZRX is that you do not have to do 140mph to make it feel like your are going quick! I have the Factory 2.5 jet/K&N kit, full Akrapovic and 4 degree advancer - 133 rwhp - rips!! 2 cents.
Steve
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