posted November 27, 2001 06:23 PM
Edited By: Claude on 27 Nov 2001 18:25
Redelk, from what I just learned, it looks like "Braking" and more OEM sytle because they have stainless steel blades while EBC are "mild steel". I always thought mild steel could be better under the rain but this is a decades old thought... I suppose things changed since the last century...
Hoping it is not a sacrilege to post a La Busa reference here, more info is available there: http://labusas.org/0101/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=001512
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posted November 27, 2001 08:52 PM
Never a problem with posting a LA Busa link here Especially when it has good information. Most of us here are also members of LA Busa (and other boards, as well).
Having said that, now the question is... What are the advantages (and disadvantages) of EBC's mild steel over that of stainless?
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posted November 28, 2001 02:18 PM
Edited By: swft on 28 Nov 2001 14:24
From the website:
The EBC Pro-lite rotors are complete bolt on replacements for the original disc being lighter in most cases than standard units and using EBC's unique HPSR low carbon steel brake rings, which enhance brake performance by 18% compared to stainless. They also extend pad life due to the reduced scaper hole pattern. For many discs on big touring bikes EBC Pro-lite units convert system to a full floater, reducing lever pulsing, etc.
BRAKE DISCS
EBC Floating Rotors
Advantages of floating rotors are - better braking, no rotor distortion, reduced chance of rotor cracking, improved brake alignment, stylish looks.
For '99 we have expanded the part numbers stocked in this extensive EBC Pro-lite range. The EBC Pro-lite rotors are complete bolt on replacements for the original disc being lighter in most cases than standard units and using EBC's unique HPSR low carbon steel brake rings, which enhance brake performance by 18% compared to stainless. They also extend pad life due to the reduced scaper hole pattern. For many discs on big touring bikes EBC Pro-lite units convert system to a full floater, reducing lever pulsing, etc.
Some bikes come with Flat/Solid rotors up front, and almost always in the rear. EBC offers Flat/Solid rotor replacements for these non-floating applications.
EBC Pro-lite Street Rotors
A complete bolt on and "stop" unit. The EBC rotors come complete with forged alloy center hub, billet steel low carbon brake rotor ring, stainless hardware and sturdy riveted assembly. Competitively priced as an alternative to aftermarket rotors for worn or buckled street bike brake discs. The EBC unit converts many early discs from solid to full floating offering improved braking and reduced lever pulsing.
EBC Pro-lite Race Rotors
Now lighter in weight with unique OD cooling groove and more weight reducing holes, the EBC Pro-lite "Blue" Hub race rotors are the ideal race bike set-up, fully re-buildable with separate/spare hardware in each brake disc kit, alloy drive buttons, lightweight alloy drive hubs and revolutionary 320 degree contact circlip mounting hardware. These discs were pioneered by Dave Sadowski and Rich Oliver in the USA and are currently used by the World 600cc Champion. In the American Buell series most race machines are equipped with EBC Pro-lite Rotors.
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posted November 28, 2001 05:30 PM
Street vs. Race So, is it REALLY best not to use the Race rotors on the street? Is it have anything to do with not heating them up enough (or something like that) in "regular" street use? Or is it because of their agressive instead of "progressive" initial "bite"?
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posted November 28, 2001 09:47 PM
I think one of the big problems is that the race only rotors take different pads...I'm still not sure what I'm getting, street or race pads. At least with Mike V being a good friend of Garry, I'll get the right pads with the rotors. And Mike's deal is a pretty good one, y'all! Full retail is $240 a rotor, he wants $400 for both rotors and a set of pads for each. Not bad!
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posted November 29, 2001 06:52 AM
EBC brakes Swft: Mike here from Horsepower. The race rotors work great for the street. I have used them for many years, on many different bikes without a problem. The reason why EBC says that they are race only is for liability reasons. The rotors are rebuildable, and they are afraid that someone will dissassemble them, and not put them back together correctly, and crash, and sue them. I have the race rotors on my bike, and love them. The nice thing about them is that if you really do work them hard, and they shrink slightly, they come with replaceable buttons that are easy to replace, and the rotors are good as new. Mike.
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posted November 30, 2001 07:42 AM
Thanks for the info, Mike! The race rotors *do* require a different pad than the street rotors, according to Garry.
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posted November 27, 2001 06:23 PM
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posted November 28, 2001 05:30 PM
And Mike's deal is a pretty good one, y'all! Full retail is $240 a rotor, he wants $400 for both rotors and a set of pads for each. Not bad!
