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posted November 24, 2001 05:11 PM
EBC Rotors for the 12?
Hey, does anyone know if the brake rotors for the 12 and the 9 are the same? The pads are, just curious bout the rotors. EBC doesn't list rotors for the 12 online, any info?
posted November 24, 2001 05:16 PM
Dunno... I'd look at the 6R for compatability, swft... I know the 00 model's 6 and 12 calipers and pads are the same fer sure...... I could go out and look at the 6 and check for you 'cept the bikes are in getting their 10000k services......
posted November 26, 2001 07:13 AM
swft; Mike here from Horsepower. I have a set of the EBC rotors on my bike. The reason why they were late in having them is that they did not have a bike to fit them on. They sent me the first set, and I fitted them, and then got back to them about the details. The rotors are available, but apparantly it was not updated in the catalogue yet. I am sure that I could get you a set if you need them. Mike.
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posted November 26, 2001 12:42 PM
Edited By: redelk on 26 Nov 2001 12:44
Try a P series ('96-'02) 7R I'm running the Braking USA rotors that were on my 7R, on my 12R. The offset, diameter (320mm) and bolt pattern are identical between the 7R and 12R.
Oh yeah... the pads and calipers are the same too. The only difference is the 7R's caliper halves are black and the 12R's is gold.
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posted November 26, 2001 01:14 PM
LOL... Hell NO! I bought them somewhere around 1999 for my 7R!
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posted November 26, 2001 01:29 PM
*grin* Okee... Just priced the wave rotors...After I mopped up the gallon of blood that exploded from my ass once I heard the price, I decided to go with the EBC rotors. ____________
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posted November 26, 2001 03:43 PM
how much? Hey guys,
The suspense is killing me! How much are the EBC rotors? I have been some what interested in them myself. And I was wondering just how interested I will be?($)
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posted November 26, 2001 04:39 PM
Edited By: redelk on 26 Nov 2001 16:43
ZX7RR 96-99 / ZX7R 96-00
#MD4022LS EBC Rotor Left
$174.95 - MAW part #32405
Does that EBC number look familiar? Why does EBC have left (LS) and right (RS) side designations for the 320mm Kawasaki rotors? In reality (at least in this case), there is no left or right side. They are identical.
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posted November 26, 2001 05:34 PM
EBC RH and LH rotors I have a set of EBC Pro-Lite 320 mm rotors for a ZX11 (BTW, they are the same than ZX12R, ZX9 and ZX7) and there is a LH and RH unit. Only difference is the pattern of the lightening holes. Except esthetic issue, does these holes need to be installed on the "correct" sides? Or are they only cosmetic?
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posted November 26, 2001 05:36 PM
Beats me I don't have a clue as to what it could be. In my "rotor testing" post, I swaped both the OEM and Braking USA rotors from side to side. I do know that the difference isn't the offset, bolt pattern or rotor suface. The Braking USA rotors I'm using have no left/right disignation or directional arrows. Even the OEM part number is the same (41080-1468-A4 DISC, FR, GOLD+SILVER).
I could understand if there was some kind of difference due to something like one side being configured for a mechanical speedo assembly or something like that. I wouldn't be surprised if EBC never had any stocking problems with running out of "lefts" and just having "rights" in rotors configured for the ZX bikes. I'm not trying to be "pissy" about it, but I'd like to hear what EBC's explaination is for having left and right part numbers for this specific rotor.
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posted November 26, 2001 06:42 PM
I can get the Galfer wave rotors for about $189 each. That's who makes the rotors for braking usa, btw.
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quote:I don't have a clue as to what it could be...but I'd like to hear what EBC's explaination is for having left and right part numbers for this specific rotor.
Redelk, you don't think my post just above yours is the right answer to your question???
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posted November 26, 2001 08:06 PM
Probably does answer my question It appears that in the case of the OEM and Braking USA ("non-Wave" type) rotors, the ventilation hole patterns are the same on the both sides. Having not see and EBC rotor in person, I don't know what the differences in the pattern, or even more importantly, the angle of the holes are.
It might look like they are drilled straight through, but the could possibly be a very, very slight angle to the direction of the holes, to improve cooling. I'm just making a wild guess, here.
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posted November 27, 2001 03:40 AM
My EBC rotor Redelk, in fact the difference is more obvious than that. The lightening holes on the blades (not the carriers) are on a shape. Installing the RH rotor at left and vice versa will invert the pattern. I don't know if newer Pro-Lites are still made this way though. I have a picture of my RH one:
quote:I can get the Galfer wave rotors for about $189 each. That's who makes the rotors for braking usa, btw.
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SWFT, can you tell me where they are at this price? I would like to know also what would be the lowest possible price I could get for one EBC Pro-Lite and one Braking StremX rotor. Thanks!
posted November 27, 2001 07:05 AM
EBC Rotors Swift; Mike here from Horsepower. The difference between the race rotors, and the street rotors is that the race rotors have removeable floating buttons, and the street rotors have floating buttons that are fixed in place. The race rotors can be dissassembled, and the street rotors can not be. Useually the race rotors have a blue carrier, and the street rotors have a silver carrier. The right, and left carriers, and rotors are the same, but it is the way that they are assembled that makes them a right or left rotor. I had the race rotors on my bike at the gap rally. I useually sell the 2 rotors with the 2 sets of HH pads for them for 420.00 complete. Hope this helps. Mike.
posted November 27, 2001 09:34 AM
EBC rotors Swft; Mike here from Horsepower. It seems like there are several board members who are interested in the rotors. I will do a special on them at 400.00 for the rotors, and both sets of HH pads. Mike.
posted November 27, 2001 03:29 PM
These are FULL floating rotors, right? Are the rotors made from cast iron or stainless?
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posted November 27, 2001 06:01 PM
Claude, The Braking USA are more like the OEM
At least as far as the hole pattern goes. The carrier "arms" that go out towards the rotor itself are smaller (and lighter) then the OEM. Keeping in mind that the Braking USA rotors are several years old are for a P series 7R. On the other hand, after spending way too much time with a dial indicator on both the OEM and the Braking rotors, I know that there is no difference between 12R and 7R rotors.
At least I now understand why EBC has a left and a right. Is Braking USA rotors better then EBC? I'll leave that debate for the others. I'm using Braking USA rotors because I had warped OEM rotors and the Braking rotors were just sitting in a box in my garage. Since the wer "left over" from my 7R, the were basically free. If the work, FREE rotors are ALWAYS the best rotors to have! I can also say that not only do they work, but they work better the the OEM rotors. The strange part is that they are not EBC HH pad friendly. They tend to have a oscillating feeling with EBC HH pads. Work fine with standard EBC pads and still better then OEM with HH pads.
I'm sure that I'll be needing some new rotors next year and hopefully, they will be enough folks that have tried different brands by that time, I can figure out if I'll stick with the Braking rotors or go with another brand. For now, I'll just see what shakes down. Thanks for the pic.
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