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posted February 11, 2003 10:30 PM
 Edited By: MadMike on 22 Feb 2003 05:26
OK, "Some" Cops are Asses!!
Ok nothing Major here but I just got stopped on the way home, and got a ticket for No Insurance, but the reason he stopped me was 1 headlight out. I wasent speeding, left a stoplight nice and calm, nothing crazy. and I have a perfect driving record! this guy is smiling and being all nice, and I'm like dude come on man I live 2 blocks away. and this is a newer Jeep even though my insurance paperwork says it is from end of last year, and I tell him dude it is a 97 I have to have insurance on it, and I have had insurance with the same company for 20 years. No, not good enough. goes and writes me a ticket!! this guy is such an Ass, you know what I am going to do. I am going to claim not guilty, and make them do a court date, and then show them my paperwork. Im not going to bring it to the first hearing, I am going to make that damn cop show up! If I have to take time off of work, he is going to have to come in on his day off!!!, well now that I am done ranting and raving, I cant believe this ass, I am sure he ran my plates and that would have told him my record, and everything. what crap!!! Im glad he was out stopping me because my headlight was out, and the drunks and theives are out having a good old time! guess the doughnuts were not ready at Krispy Kreme.
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posted February 11, 2003 11:05 PM
that is pretty damn gay.
sounds like he was just itchin to write you up for somethin.
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posted February 12, 2003 02:07 AM
MIke...I had the same thing happen to me a few years back, I took care of it with the magistrate. They failed to take it off my record....and on top of it, didnt report it as no PROOF of insurance, but as NO insurance...so now I have that on my record and its not true.
To top it off my insurance did a check and found that on my record, so they upped my insurance...the same insurance company that I had at the time of the ticket...they could have easily checked their records and seen it was not true,, and that I did in deed have insurance with THEM....
I wouldnt suggest doing the court run around...you might end up like me and then it may take months to get it all straightened out....take the paperwork in and get it taken care of asap....just my opinion...from expeirence.....
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posted February 12, 2003 05:53 AM
In my hometown it is a towable offense. No card? Call Henry the Hook and off goes your car. This all came about because there was so many uninsured motorists getting in wrecks. You can also be towed for illegal tint on the windows and stereo too loud. Then you pay for the tow, impound fee and the ticket. In practice, they rarely tow. But it doesn't take too many instances before word gets around. No small coincidence that one of the alderman on the committee is an insurance salesman.
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posted February 12, 2003 07:15 AM
You go Mike, make him come in on his day off and get paid overtime.
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posted February 12, 2003 08:00 AM
In defense of cops, (can I say that!!) that is the way they catch most drunks on the highway. Since they can't pull people over for "no reason", someone with a light out or failure to signal, etc. is the person who gets stopped. As one who has been in court TOO many times, I would suggest you show up at the circuit clerks office with the proper insurance ID in the next few days so your name doesn't even get on the court docket to begin with. That should stop you from wasting so much of your time and your local jurisdiction's Krispy Kreme account won't be depleted in overtime hours!!
Good Luck!!
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posted February 12, 2003 08:10 AM
Take their advice, nip it in the bud. Go to the DA with your insurance and tell him you had it in the car but it was under the seat or some such crap. Don't say shit about the cop, humble yourself and just get it over with. There is nothing to be won. Yes, he is an ass, all traffic cops are. Believe me they can make your life far more miserable than you can make theirs.
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posted February 12, 2003 08:10 AM
hey mike.. they get paid OT to go to court.. .you'll just be makin him $$$
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posted February 12, 2003 08:13 AM
Edited By: Megabyte on 12 Feb 2003 09:18
I'm with you Man. The locals are the worst!
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posted February 12, 2003 08:29 AM
I agree with TedG. It sucks, but you wont win anything taking time off to goto court; yes you will be found not guilty but likely still get stuck with court costs to defend yourself ($15~35), at least it's like that in VA. If you are unable to resolve in advance with the DA, call the officer or stop by his station and provide the proof of insurance to his boss.
Of course if he wrote you up for no "proof of insurance" you are guilty, even if you have insurance in some states it's required to carry proof in the vehicle. If however he wrote you for "no insurance" then you're good to go. Good luck!
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posted February 12, 2003 09:06 AM
Bergie is correct. My Step Son had insurance, but did not have his card and was in Virginia and went to court and had to pay because he did not have the "Proof" Like no registration card! I think if there is anyone on this board that has been to court the most, it is me! (I know, Big surprise  ) I would suggest going to the Prosecutors office with the Proof and then if you are lucky, he will not be notified and show up anyway!
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posted February 12, 2003 09:58 AM
Edited By: n da zone on 12 Feb 2003 09:59
Hey! I got a ticket for no proof of insurance, and I was in RENTAL car!
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I had declined the coverage at the rental counter b/c I was fully insured on my real cars. So it looked like I was carrying no insurance.
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When I got home, I had to mail them the cover page from the policy & a $6.00 money order. Cheap fix really. Been renting cars and getting tickets for years, but never got THAT before.
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But, I'll add to the above. Handle it by mail, don't go to court. The cops get overtime for court appearance, so they always go, and they are 'friends of the court', ALWAYS TRUSTED and RARELY WRONG in the judges eyes.
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posted February 12, 2003 11:16 AM
Tell them that the proof of insurance was in the car, and you found it when you got home under the seat.
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MadMike
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posted February 12, 2003 01:13 PM
Alright, sounds like I should just go ahead and fix it now so I will. but the guy is still a Jerk, I was in my local neighborhood, and he has probably seen me a hundred times, he is a sherrif, and I still dont know what the hell he was hasseling me for? I am still freaking Pissed about it! I know I shouldent let things like that bug me,and usually it dosent, but while I was sitting there while he was writing me up, I just got madder and madder and I'm still in a bad mood today!
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posted February 12, 2003 02:16 PM
Being stopped for light is a kind of hokie reason for being stopped, hokie yes, but very legal. In most if not ALL states they then can ask for proof of insurance and registration. I would go get the headlight fixed and get ur insurance card and just go talk to the court liason if they have one. He may be willing to just dismiss it at that.
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posted February 12, 2003 03:20 PM
Maybe he didn't like you calling him "dude" !
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posted February 12, 2003 04:04 PM
A burned out headlight, tail light or turn signal is the Equivalent of having a 200 foot freeway doughnut stand sign for a cop! Especially if you have laws like insurance and seat belts that they can't make a primary stop for.
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posted February 12, 2003 05:57 PM
Good to see you vent your fustrations here. I wouldn't break balls in court because he probably has a few friends that he works with and they'll remember you every time they see you. So the guy is a jerk, that doesn't mean you have to sink to the same level.
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posted February 12, 2003 06:01 PM
...mmmm...200 foot donut....I've probably been to court more than any of you!  ...and I usually get paid time and a half in exchange for having only four hours of sleep before I go to briefing again
...anyway, if you did indeed have valid insurance at the time of your less than pleasant interface with the deputy, and you have proof that the equipment violation has since been addressed, bring all that proof before to the courthouse/county clerk WAY BEFORE the court date on the ticket (or mail it...unless an officer of the court/or cop needs to actually see the repair)...they should sign it off with a small administrative fee (typically $12~$15 here)...
...at least here in san diego, the cop can check the 'yes' or 'no' box to indicate whether or not the violation is a sign-off or a mandatory court appearance...
...btw, I prefer chocolate covered eclairs better than donuts...which means I have to stop at a secluded spot to savor it...which means I can't be disturbed by a little holiganism, pig calling, etc.
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posted February 12, 2003 06:22 PM
You could of been Driving a brand new Bentley, left your paperwork with the butler & the cop would have still given you a ticket. The Cop like most, not all but most, was a stroke.
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posted February 12, 2003 06:50 PM
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posted February 12, 2003 07:24 PM
Edited By: worm~hole on 12 Feb 2003 19:25
...ahhh...nothing more unprofessional than having a sugar glazed look in yer' eyes while some citizen is hysterical and begging you to help get their cat thats stuck up in a tree..."You wantin' me to do whuh...???"
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posted February 12, 2003 07:39 PM
Mike,
I know how it sucks to get a ticket, but since it wasn't me I have a different perspective of this situation than you do.
"this guy is smiling and being all nice"
At least he wasn't being a condesending SOB and treated you fairly and with respect.
"and the drunks and theives are out having a good old time!"
Since most people don't commit crimes in the presence of Johnny Law, the police need a little thing called "probable cause" to initiate a stop and check into the situation further. Your headlight being out was just that and, as another member mentioned, is exactly how a lot of arrests are made.
It is common knowledge that the majority of people don't like the police until they need them!
Regardless of all of this, it still sucks that you got the ticket.
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posted February 12, 2003 09:46 PM
Worm.....I would think powder sugar doughnuts would be a bad idea for a policeman! Something about a little white powder on the nose just looks bad
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posted February 12, 2003 09:57 PM
I actually do like the police and have friends that are both state police and local. it is just the couple of asshole's out there that really piss me off, and it takes alot to get me angry. I understand he has a job to do, by stopping me, and making sure Im not some drunk sob. like I have been before Im sure. but what pissed me off was his attitude, and you know what he has seen me before and will again I am sure. so he should say to me "ok mike lets make a deal you get your damn card in your car or next time I'm going to give you a ticket ok. there ya go end of story. customer service, I have a perfect driving record, I mean Nothing at all on there! and he throws me this hassel! and it is not like I am in some Eastside beater, I mean my jeep is no rolls but hey I would be a freaking idot not to have Insurance on it!! and my card that I had was good till Nov, of 02. so all and all I feel he had a quota to meet for the week. or why else would he make me have to take time off and go get this straightened out?? oh well, maybe he was just having a bad day and had to take it out on someone. It could have been alot worse if he had wanted it to.. I am sure. but you know what Karma is a bitch and it will come back around.
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