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posted November 22, 2001 09:51 AM        
The truth of the matter is that everyone should have the right to self protection.
If you cant understand that basic idea then god help you.

Criminals have always been on this earth and they will always be here.
An armed society is a low crime society. Its been proven in the states that have carry laws.
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posted November 22, 2001 10:18 AM        
IMHO I think we should all be able to own, but I'm not sure how I feel about packin' heat on the street. I think that's where most idiots are likely to pull it out and use it for something stupid. That's just my one cent (not two cents, I rarely say something worth that much)
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posted November 22, 2001 10:54 AM        Edited By: 22348bCVC on 22 Nov 2001 11:23
yeah...right....

...repressive gun laws are abided by MOST LAW ABIDING CITIZENS...you can have a zillion gun laws and MOST LAW ABIDING CITIZENS will grudgingly comply with the laws because...well...they don't want to be in violation of the law...FUCKIN' PREDATOR CRIMINAL ASSHOLES DON'T ABIDE BY ANYONE'S OR ANY GOVERNMENT'S LAWS...THESE ASSHOLES DON'T CARE ABOUT BEING IN VIOLATION...THAT'S WHY THESE ASSHOLES ARE CALLED CRIMINALS...THEY LAUGH AT THE POOR LAW ABIDING CITIZEN BECAUSE...WELL...YOU FIGURE IT OUT...ITS SIMPLE, REALLY...HEY TGPWR...I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BEST AND FINAL ANSWER IS FOR THIS TOPIC, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I'M GLAD THAT I GET TO LEGALLY CARRY CONCEALED AND I'M GLAD THAT THEY ARE STABLE AND LAW ABIDING CITIZENS DOING THE SAME...IT AT LEAST MAKES IT MORE SURVIVABLE WHEN WE DO MEET THE UNSTABLE AND ARMED CRIMINAL OUT ON THE STREETS...AND THAT'S MY TWO CENTS WORTH...MY LIFE AND OTHER ARE DEFINITELY WORTH MORE THAN THAT...
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posted November 22, 2001 11:21 AM        Edited By: 22348bCVC on 22 Nov 2001 11:33
...oh, yeah, a couple more things..."REAL MEN" do what's right, smart, and whatever it takes to protect themselves and others..."COWARDS" are the fuckin' criminal element who terrorize innocent citizens who are just trying to live their lives in peace...whether ANYONE has a gun or not...

...think about it...don't confuse the two...
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posted November 22, 2001 11:45 AM        
tgpw......IMHO,...YER' FUCKIN' NUTS!!
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posted November 22, 2001 11:56 AM        
If you're unstable or a thief or acriminal in general, you don't have to sign anywhere!
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posted November 22, 2001 12:09 PM        Edited By: 22348bCVC on 22 Nov 2001 12:17
...hey TGPWR...GOOD FOR YOU that you can beat the shit out of a person with your bare hands...I could probably do the same thing with my ACTION-KUNG-FU-GRIP if we're CQB...but what do you do when you see some armed asshole with a gun coming towards you?...go into a boxing stance?...run and hide is the best and safest option in that scenerio...but what if there's nowhere to run and hide?...granted, sometimes the asshole will get the drop on you and there's almost nothing you can do about that to survive when the asshole starts shooting...BUT...what if the asshole's a lousy shot, what if you can get to your weapon...what if you can engage and terminate the dangerous threat...you get to live and talk about it (and buy more guns if you like)

...the issue of a person's stability can be debated ad nauseum whether there's a gun involved or not...guns in and of itselves don't kill people...PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE...even with their BARE HANDS!...stay safe and be aware of your surroundings without being paranoid...its easy and smart...like you said, believe what you want...

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posted November 22, 2001 01:23 PM        
can't we all just get along?
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posted November 22, 2001 01:32 PM        
quote:
...oh, yeah, a couple more things..."REAL MEN" do what's right, smart, and whatever it takes to protect themselves and others..."COWARDS" are the fuckin' criminal element who terrorize innocent citizens who are just trying to live their lives in peace...whether ANYONE has a gun or not...

...think about it...don't confuse the two...



That's exactly how I feel.

Hopefully it will never happen , but I WILL SHOOT an unarmed person that poses an immenant danger to my family's life,or my life.You will react under stress to the training and mental attitude you have developed.I am not a bad ass nor do I want to be and I will avoid confrontation if possible.It's best to not fuck with the unknown.It can hurt you.
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posted November 22, 2001 03:06 PM        Edited By: 12RPilot on 22 Nov 2001 15:12
America...love it or leave it!!!
I'll give up my guns when they pry my cold, dead fingers off the trigger!!
Peace through superior firepower.
I love throwing these slogans at commie scum like this Canadian. He's such a tough guy!! Har har har.
Hey TGPWR, I hope you're the baddest MF walking the street or the criminal may just pound your ass and rape your Ol' Lady. But I'm sure he'll respect your chivalry and make it a fair fight. What a stooge!!!
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posted November 22, 2001 03:24 PM        
12RPILOT you have a nice colection started.

TGPWR you sir are an idiot.

If you go looking for trouble you will find it.

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posted November 22, 2001 03:25 PM        
12RPILOT you have a nice colection started.

TGPWR you sir are an idiot.

If you go looking for trouble you will find it.

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posted November 22, 2001 04:14 PM        Edited By: 22348bCVC on 23 Nov 2001 01:44
...to be fair, leave TGPWR alone with his rightful opinion
...we all don't have to be mean about it...he's entitled to his own as much as any of us are to ours'...its his choice...we have ours and we have chosen to be armed legally on the streets...

...gun ownership is a tremeandous responsibility...lock up your weapons, but make it readily accessible for that special occassion...that'll help curb the 'guns on the street'...
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posted November 22, 2001 05:24 PM        
TGPWR, what you are saying is exactly what the people of france thought just prior to the germans marching in for the second time in just over 20 years, and...

Nevermind.

I think you watch too much Rosie O Donnel.


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posted November 22, 2001 07:25 PM        
TGPWR, Wise up, pal. Firearms had nothing to do with success enjoyed by terrorists on 9/11. But firearms could well have prevented 9/11. There might be a better argument for having concealed carry rights, but I can't think of it. Oh, and by the way, I have never owned a pistol. But I'd never deny the right to another law abiding citizen. You do know that Hitler made confiscation of firearms from German citizens one of his first priorities, don't you?
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posted November 22, 2001 07:38 PM        
Yep....need an ALL of the above category.
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posted November 22, 2001 08:23 PM        
Hmmm...CVC is right. Sorry I was such a smartass. I have a tendency to blow off when someone attacks an American institution. I gotta be more secure in the face of other opinions. I apoligize to the board.
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posted November 22, 2001 09:17 PM        Edited By: 22348bCVC on 23 Nov 2001 01:48
TGPWR...this isn't the war of 1812...this a new and, unfortunately, a dangerous time we live in nowadays...if only you knew how I wish it was how it was like when I was a child in the early sixties...simpler, somewhat safer...I tell you what...if I ever come to Canada I'll leave my guns on this side of the border because your laws say that I must and maybe you'll let me hang with you 'no-gun' types...if you ever make it SanDiego, you could hang with us gun-totin' types and be rest assured that IF we are confronted by an armed asshole WHO HAS NO REGARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE OR THE GUN LAWS, that we'll have a fighting chance in hell to come out alive and possibly unscathed...or you can be repulsed by us 'cowards' and men who are not 'real men', not hang with us, and take your chances...don't misunderstand me...I don't ever wish almost ANYONE the unfortunate experience of being 'black holed' by some asshole, but if you ever allow yourself to hang with my type, believe me, you could do much worse...you may laugh at us about this topic, but as you can see, we don't feel that this is a laughing matter...peace

12RPilot...that's cool of you...
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posted November 23, 2001 01:39 AM        Edited By: 22348bCVC on 23 Nov 2001 01:47
...hmmm...this is interesting...where are TGPWR's other posts?...you know, you're absolutely right...we do have freedom of speech...except you (TGPWR) said that us gun carrying were not 'real men' and that we were 'cowards' and 'paranoid'...I hope you knowby now that when you talk smack like that to the board members, you get it back at least ten-fold...its a tough crowd here...
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posted November 23, 2001 05:35 AM        
I figured out what TGPWR stands for!

Why did you delete all your posts TGPWR?

TGPWR = Tiny
Gonads
Pussy boy
With
Rectal/oral confusion

Here's something for you chickenshit .
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posted November 23, 2001 06:15 AM        
Hi guys.......I live in Canada and I love guns as well......I have a (licensed and fuckin registered to death) Remington 1100, with left side ejector. I used to shoot skeet for the York Skeet Club. As far as hunting goes, any duck I ever shot at is still flying, either I was too drunk or stoned to hit it.....Relax I'm just kidding, it was the waiting in the cold blind that got to me. I'd start crying and my make-up would run!
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posted November 23, 2001 09:27 AM        Edited By: macnas on 23 Nov 2001 11:57
You won't need your gun in Canada!

Ah fuck it!

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posted November 23, 2001 09:28 AM        Edited By: 12RPilot on 23 Nov 2001 09:30
TGPWR Is Really Robert?

I haven't heard anyone talk so much shit since RS. Come on Robert. It's you, isn't it? Har har har har.
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posted November 24, 2001 03:36 PM        
We need to...

Because, lately. EVERYBODY thinks they are some kind of BAD ass...( They really could not fight their way out
of a paper bag!! ) As long as they have their "homeys",
So it IS necessary to defend ONE's self, family, bike,possesions, etc...

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posted November 24, 2001 06:48 PM        
What happened to the post about me being tgpwr's bitch?

At least when I post something I don't delete it! Don't think I'll be going to jail except maybe for speeding and won't be anyone's bitch if I do.
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