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posted February 25, 2011 03:10 PM
Is there a modded oilpan for a non-Sidewinder?
Had no love in my Googly search...
Are there any oil pans available out there that do NOT require the use of the Sidewinder pipe and give some extra ground clearance?
I'd like to get more ground clearance if I could since I have the bike lowered cause I'mn a short-ass.
Thanks!
  
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posted February 25, 2011 04:46 PM
Check with Shannon at Old School Racing ( OSR ) in Logansport, Indiana.
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almost_les
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posted February 26, 2011 09:10 AM
i think coby adams will cut off the bottom road snags, weld up a skid plate to keep it all smooth, and then add an oil drain off to the side.
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posted February 26, 2011 11:59 PM
 Edited By: KZScott on 27 Feb 2011 08:00
i made one with a relocated drain plug and it held about 3/4 of a quart extra oil. stock oil pickup
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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posted March 12, 2011 04:22 PM
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i made one with a relocated drain plug and it held about 3/4 of a quart extra oil. stock oil pickup
Do you have any pics?
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KZScott
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posted March 13, 2011 08:37 AM
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted March 13, 2011 12:14 PM
very tasty
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posted March 16, 2011 10:53 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 16 Mar 2011 18:54
Scott, did you ever have any oiling related failures while running that pan? It looks very nice...
What pipe is that?
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KZScott
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posted March 16, 2011 05:37 PM
no i didnt, just with shorter pans. thanks
muzzy in the "fab" pics, hindle step tube in the last 2
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted March 16, 2011 06:33 PM
i like the bud can in the background. i do my best work after a few.
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posted March 23, 2011 07:27 AM
Im a analyst by profession so i can't help myself. I really don't want to steep on anyone's toes.
Help me understand the need for this mod.
i know more oil so you don't suck the pan dry and kill the bearings,
but what else am i missing?
If that;s the only benefit, why not run the oil at the top of the window?
in my mind, if you have a condition where you are concerned about sucking the pan dry, you can't also be worried about extra windage from the extra few oz of oil.
a better mod would be to improve the oil return system. smooth the holes in the head,
increase the size of the return holes, and head gasket.
This would allow the oil to return to the pan faster and not pool in the head, eliminating the need for extra oil.
IF you are running baja or roadracing I could see the possible need for extra oil cooling but not on the street riding or drag racing.
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posted March 25, 2011 09:13 PM
i ran it high in the sight glass with the added section
the more oil you have, the more "pure" it is per x amount of contaminants. for example if you had to choose 1 of the following to fill your motor with oil which would it be?
option 1 is a 5l jug of your fav oil with 1 clutch friction ground to a powder and mixed perfectly in the oil
option 2 is a 10l jug of the same oil with 1 clutch friction ground to a powder and mixed perfectly in the oil
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted March 27, 2011 07:07 AM
Any tricks in changing out an oil pan???
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posted March 27, 2011 01:33 PM
Man that is really a smart idea KZ'' I asked a Clem in a 14 thread if he would considering doing something along these lines for the 14's'' but got no response.
It looks like on a 14 you could add some on the rear of the sump as well as the side like you have here? I know its not as easy to do as it is to say like i have over simplified it here but if you told me tomorrow you had three pans for sale now for the 14 i'd buy them all.
There is a demand for a street ex,pan IMO. VERY KOOL........................
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posted March 27, 2011 08:03 PM
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Any tricks in changing out an oil pan???
take off the sight glass first, undo bolts, and give it a few whacks with a rubber mallet if its sticky. remove dowel pins. clean off surfaces and touch up lightly with 600 grit paper on a flat block. clean again, add a new gasket and throw it back on. i had issues with it leaking at first, turned out after the first heat cycle it settled and needed some bolts tightened back up. no problems since. a little high temp grease around the o-rings on the sight glass will prevent any leaks.
and clean out the pickup screen before putting the pan back on!
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posted March 28, 2011 01:13 PM
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Man that is really a smart idea KZ'' I asked a Clem in a 14 thread if he would considering doing something along these lines for the 14's'' but got no response.
It looks like on a 14 you could add some on the rear of the sump as well as the side like you have here? I know its not as easy to do as it is to say like i have over simplified it here but if you told me tomorrow you had three pans for sale now for the 14 i'd buy them all.
There is a demand for a street ex,pan IMO. VERY KOOL........................
send me a 14 motor and a pipe and ill knock one out for ya 
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted March 28, 2011 01:27 PM
mod, pan
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Man that is really a smart idea KZ'' I asked a Clem in a 14 thread if he would considering doing something along these lines for the 14's'' but got no response.
It looks like on a 14 you could add some on the rear of the sump as well as the side like you have here? I know its not as easy to do as it is to say like i have over simplified it here but if you told me tomorrow you had three pans for sale now for the 14 i'd buy them all.
There is a demand for a street ex,pan IMO. VERY KOOL........................
send me a 14 motor and a pipe and ill knock one out for ya
LOL ,would the case with pan do or you need the motor? Im guessing it would work better if it was a big motor with big valve head and Hayes clutch...;lmao
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posted March 28, 2011 01:53 PM
Edited By: KZScott on 28 Mar 2011 21:56
well i used a complete motor because i wanted the pipe bolted to it to know how tight to go.... someone must have junked cases and a trashed head good enough for mock up.
like this lol
going to work on a new 4-2-1 header design with more ground clearance and slightly bigger tubing than normal. the upper case is 3 pieces, hole in the block.... head nfg ect. dry sump going on my replacement motor
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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billeason
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posted March 28, 2011 02:46 PM
Oh yea '' i see you would need it all. Don't know what i was thinking, this kind of mod can't be just close, Its got to be wright on start to finish. I have a head /couple pans but no cases just now ........
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