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posted December 19, 2002 06:44 AM        
Digital speedo

Ordered this:



http://www.branfordbike.com/computer/comp4.html#item1


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posted December 19, 2002 09:33 AM        
Why did you order that? Because it's digital? Easier to read? Cheaper than a yellow box? Inquiring minds want to know.
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posted December 19, 2002 10:06 AM        
Because its accurate.
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posted December 19, 2002 11:03 AM        
And a yellow box ain't?
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posted December 19, 2002 11:04 AM        
They are cool...trip meter, average and max speed, yada-yada...
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posted December 19, 2002 01:41 PM        
I'd like to same....our numbers are too hard for old farts to read...
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posted December 19, 2002 01:43 PM        
Actually, I ordered it cuz Zhooligan is going blind and needs one.

And I wanted to try out the different functions.

And it's very inexpensive, compared to some of the other 'experiments' that I've tried over the past couple years.

I ordered three of them, so 1 will go to Zhooligan, 1 will go on the silver 12, and the last one will be in 'reserve' for whatever comes up, like maybe my Raptor.

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posted December 19, 2002 03:01 PM        
I had to put on my glasses to respond to this! It would be nice to actually be able to check the speed at the upper end without having to decifer the rediculously small numbers on the 220 mph speedo. And I would assume this digital one has a top speed memory. And unlike a GPS that you can take on an airplane and then claim you went 200 you will actually have to go 200!
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posted December 19, 2002 05:16 PM        
Does it light up for nightime use?
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posted December 19, 2002 07:05 PM        
Nope! But you can always get a light for it.
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posted December 19, 2002 07:24 PM        
I have found landspeed record runs in the dark tend to kill people. So the regular speedo works fine at night.
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posted December 19, 2002 08:49 PM        
The Sigma only (only?) registers up to 183 mph. I bought one but the yellow box came out shortly thereafter and I never installed the Sigma. Now that I think about it, the Sigma has the features I use a GPS for but in a smaller package. Looks like the Sigma will be a winter project. I can count on one hand the number of times I've exceeded 183 mph.
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posted December 20, 2002 03:12 AM        
swft,
I bought a sigma a year ago and tried to put the pickup on the r wheel so I could see if the tire was "slipping" during top end tests (201mph wall).

I was never able to get the mounting right so I finally deep-sixed the project.

How are you gonna mount the pickup?
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posted December 20, 2002 03:35 AM        
Gonna put the magnet on the front wheel, which is the way I've seen it done. Pickup goes on da fork leg.
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posted December 20, 2002 03:51 AM        
GPS....the only way to fly..hehe.
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posted December 20, 2002 06:27 AM        
swft,
if you can put it on the rear you'll have a method to check rw spin (digital vs GPS) and I guarantee you'll want it when you get around to serious top end tests, Bonneville or street.

Besides, I know you will figure out how to mount it, then maybe you'll tell us
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posted December 20, 2002 06:43 AM        Edited By: EastBayDave on 20 Dec 2002 06:44
I still think Swft needs one of these....


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posted December 20, 2002 03:26 PM        
Eastbay... what are the dimensions of the unit you have posted?
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posted December 20, 2002 08:35 PM        Edited By: swft on 20 Dec 2002 20:36
EBD - I looked at that unit, but the price was just too much. That's a motec dash, right?

http://www.motec.com/products/adldash.htm

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posted December 20, 2002 08:56 PM        
Yep; Swft got it. Click on the link; it's awesome! Data logging as well as real-time digital display that's fully configurable. I hear Team Yosh Suz is running them. Sigh it's out of most people's price range; but it's just tits!

Drool.....
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posted December 21, 2002 01:08 AM        
Is it me or is there no pricing info on that site? Hard to buy something if you can't find out a price!!
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posted December 21, 2002 06:25 AM        Edited By: EastBayDave on 21 Dec 2002 06:49
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Is it me or is there no pricing info on that site? Hard to buy something if you can't find out a price!!


Base price = $3,457.00+ extras

For full pricing download the .pdf catalog here: http://www.motec.com/catalog.htm


I'm just astonished at the abilties of this controller. Even "traction control?" Jeezus... If you want the best, price is no option...



Technical Specifications

General
Microprocessor 32 Bit 33 MHz
79 Pin Autosport Connector
Quality Standard ISO 9002
Manufacturing Standard IPC-S-815-A Class 3 High Reliability
ECU Control Software stored in updateable FLASH memory
High RFI Immunity
Billet Aluminum Housing



General Measurement Inputs
28 Analog Inputs (8 standard) (12 bit resolution)
4 Wheel Speed measurement inputs (2 standard)
4 Digital Inputs (2 standard)
4 Switch Inputs (2 standard)
All sensors may be user calibrated



Air Fuel Ratio Measurement
Two high accuracy Wide Band Air Fuel Ratio Sensor inputs (Requires the Lambda Option)
Fully Temperature compensated
Range 0.75 to 1.20 Lambda
Resolution 0.01 Lambda
Accuracy 1.5% (below 1.05 Lambda)



Auxiliary Outputs
Up to 8 Auxiliary Outputs for staged Gear Shift Lights, Warning Light, Thermatic Fan control



Display
Custom LCD, High Contrast, High Temperature, Reflective
70 segment Tacho Definable range up to 19,000 RPM
Programmable Red Line / Shift point, may be gear dependant
3 Numeric Displays
13 Digit Alpha Numeric Display
Gear Position Display



Display Functions
May display any 4 ECU or Dash channel (over 200 channels)
User definable Warning Alarms on all channels
Lap Time display and Lap Time Gain / Loss display
Continuous update of Minimum Corner and Maximum Straight speeds
Fuel Used or Fuel remaining



Data Logging
Memory Size 384K through 8 Mbyte Options
May log any ECU or Dash channel
Very high speed unload of logged data (15 seconds per Mbyte)
Logging Rate 1~500 Hz on Dash channels 1~20 Hz on ECU channels
Maximum logging rate 20 Kbytes per second
Logging Times (for 4 Mbytes memory)
51 min (30 x 20 / sec + 10 x 5 / sec)
33 min (4 x 100 / sec + 30 x 20 / sec)



Data Logging Analysis Software
Standard Logging (Optional)
Graphing of Logged data
Mixture Analysis
RPM Histogram
Min / Max Statistics
Diagnostics
Pro Logging (Optional)
Graphs may be plotted against time or distance
Graph overlays
Track map shows min corner speeds, max straight speeds, gear change & braking points etc.
Multiple Mixture Plots
Friction Circle Plot
plus other advanced features



Other Features
Interface to MoTeC ECU's
Telemetry Link output (9600 baud RS232)
1 Mbit CAN Data Link
May feed all four wheel speeds to the ECU via a single wire
Total Engine running time record
Total Engine running time above RPM limit



Other Specifications
Internal Temp Range -10~80°C
Ambient Temp -10~70°C
Operating Voltage 6~22V DC
Operating Current 0.3 A max
Reverse Battery Protection External Fuse
Battery Transient Protection
Case Size 180 x 91 x 18 mm
(7.1 x 3.6 x 0.7 inches)
Weight 0.44 kg (0.95 LB)
Warranty 1 year Parts & Labor



Options Summary
Extended Inputs & Outputs 28 Analog, 4 Speed, 4 Digital and 4 Switch Inputs plus 8 Aux. Outputs.
(Standard 8,2,2,2 & 4 respectively).
Lambda 2 Wide Band Temperature Compensated Lambda Inputs
Standard Logging Enables Data Logging
Pro Logging Advanced Analysis Software
Large Logging Enables full 8 Mbytes (Otherwise 384K)



Accessories
PC Communications Cable (High Speed CAN)
RS232 Adapter for MoTeC ECU's
Gear Shift Lights
Warning Light
Lap Beacon
Accelerometers
Thermocouple Amplifiers
Temperature Sensors
Pressure Sensors
Steering Angle Sensors
Ride Height Sensors
Strain Gauges


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posted December 21, 2002 02:03 PM        
This one isn't as nice as the MoTec but still fairly cool.



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posted December 21, 2002 03:42 PM        
I like the new digital dash's on the new Kawi 6R coming out...hope if the 04 12 has one, I can get it to work on my 02.
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swft


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posted December 21, 2002 05:49 PM        
Hard to say. It's still taking in the same signals, so you *should* be able to make it work. Doubt the connector will be the same tho...
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