twista

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posted March 06, 2009 02:08 PM
PC III USB..
How much can actually be gained by the addition of one of these,, is it noticeable,, i have a Akrapovic full system with a shorty cannister,, and i am wondering if the gains are worth the money.. any input? bike is an A-1 with BMCs everything else is stock (motor wise)
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KZScott

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posted March 06, 2009 10:00 PM
do you have an earlier version of PC now? is your timing stock?
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twista

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posted March 06, 2009 10:17 PM
Negative Scott,, shes bone stock,, so im wondering how much can be squeezed from the Akra and BMCs,, stock timing. and wondering if the Power Commanders actually help with power to justify the price?
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johnnnyboy

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posted March 07, 2009 07:33 AM
be nice to see a comparison PC vs none. I have VH map in my bike. Same mods except no bear stacks or BMC's. My PC died last year and I ran with none for months. The bike seemed to work as good or better without the PC. Cant say a PC is making a difference for me. I dont have dyno numbers to prove it but the the feel and speed is the same. The only things I notice are with the PC my throtle was allot smoother and my idle wasnt as bad. ( I have a full stepped hindle sytem) It prob makes a difference but real world driving not allot. I bought another one from KZ and ill put it back on in a month or two. I guess im saying that yes id get one but if it makes a big difference in power I dont think so. Ok guys rip me apart LOL !
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KZScott

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posted March 07, 2009 07:30 PM
find an old 3r or get the ign modual with the usb, or manually advance the timing 3-4 degrees. that and a properly tuned map will show you increased performance. have you ever added a pipe to a carbed bike and not changed jets? i accidently filled the fuel table with the ign table once(bunch of 4s and 5s) bike ran like shit. very surgey. reloaded proper map, back to smoothness and power
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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posted March 08, 2009 09:31 AM
Edited By: 2000redrocket on 8 Mar 2009 17:31
if you got a A1 2000 give me a email dmk1ng@comcast.net about the ecu in your bike. my muzzy setup should be closeer than no adjustments at all. and the ecus usually do not die and they are load senceing. amd the rpm can be put up or down for the limiter.
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twista

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posted March 08, 2009 04:21 PM
Rocket im sending an emaill,, but what are we talking about here? messing with the computer
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2000redrocket

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posted March 08, 2009 04:34 PM
yes.
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twista

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posted March 08, 2009 04:43 PM
sorry bro the call dropped..
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SVTFord94

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posted March 10, 2009 12:45 AM
i gained 7 rwh vs no pcIII usb, dyno proven, and ridability was greatly increased, very smooth after the tune..
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