johnnnyboy
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posted April 07, 2008 02:12 PM
what else do I need for a Hindle full system
ok so here it goes when I bought the bike the guy i bought it from was racing it what he had on for an exhaust was the Hindle front header its was every thing up untill the can ( there was no can ) so it was like a straight exhaust. So what im thinking is I have the front header of a full Hindle system what can do I match this up to ? can I just look for a can that goes with the hindle full system ? Im assuming there is only one full hindle system for a 2000 zx 12 could i just order that one( the can ) and would it work the my header pipe?
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VincentHill
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posted April 07, 2008 03:00 PM
 Edited By: VincentHill on 7 Apr 2008 16:09
There are several Systems for the ZX12R the Regular Street Hindle the Race, Brock and 4-2-1 Sidewinder.
Look at the header pipes! Do they have "ANY" Welding in them Prior to the collector?
Once we know what system you have then we will know what Mid Pipe or Muffler you need! The systems are sold as Header and Mid Pipe and the Muffler is sold separate
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johnnnyboy
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posted April 07, 2008 03:28 PM
ahh in that case I gessing all i need is a muffler
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posted April 07, 2008 05:22 PM
looks like a muzzy to me??
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VincentHill
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posted April 08, 2008 09:25 AM
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looks like a muzzy to me??
Muzzy's Are BOLT on at the Flange!
He has the Best one they make which is the Step tube race and it is an early one that is all welded together! You need a 2.25 inch Race Muffler which has a 2.0 outlet. FInd a cheap one on e-bay that is Oval and Aluminum Cannister that is 22 inches Long or longer!
SHould find one for $2 to $300 NEW or $1 to $200 Used
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johnnnyboy
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posted April 08, 2008 01:38 PM
so any hindle race muffler thats to your specs will do ? how much better will the bike perform with this pipe and a good map from stock
thanks allot for the information its hard to figure some of this stuff out alone
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johnnnyboy
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posted April 08, 2008 02:13 PM
oh ya and how loud will it be ? i drive all street
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posted April 08, 2008 02:46 PM
I have a hindle exhaust and its not loud at all. Check hindle's website.
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VincentHill
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posted April 08, 2008 04:12 PM
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I have a hindle exhaust and its not loud at all. Check hindle's website.
Hindle USUALLY Wins All Noise contests by being the most quiet Muffler!
With the Correct Map I gained from 153 to 183 HP somewhere between 12 to 15 HP was the Pipe!
The Step Tube makes 5 to 7 HP Over their Street System and the Street System makes 5 to 8 HP over stock!
It does work better with the Muffler (A Race Muffler and is still quiet!)
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johnnnyboy
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posted April 09, 2008 01:58 AM
thats quite a gain im looking around for a race muffler and ill put it on
theres a map for a full hindle system on the power commander site would this work well enough or do i really needa custom map
all i have is k&n filter and PC3
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VincentHill
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posted April 09, 2008 09:26 AM
If you have a 2000 or 2001 ZX12R, I will send you my map. The one on the Dynojet site may only be for the standard version of the exhaust. The one I have is what Hindle produced and then I fine tuned using the Dyno and riding. With the Bear Short stacks and the Crank Case vacuum mod it is the one I made 183 HP With! You should get between 170 to 176 depending on what your base HP Was
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johnnnyboy
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posted April 09, 2008 12:04 PM
Id appreciate that I have a 2000
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posted April 09, 2008 12:38 PM
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Id appreciate that I have a 2000
Send me a PM with your e-mail address!
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posted April 09, 2008 03:02 PM
vincenthill does your map have the flat spot down low in the rpm range? I just put the exhaust on a month ago and down loaded the map from the power commander website. Now I have a flat spot from 2500 to 3500. Should I down loaded a new map or get a custom map made?
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posted April 10, 2008 04:48 AM
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vincenthill does your map have the flat spot down low in the rpm range? I just put the exhaust on a month ago and down loaded the map from the power commander website. Now I have a flat spot from 2500 to 3500. Should I down loaded a new map or get a custom map made?
In that area is actually has a power SURGE!
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posted April 10, 2008 11:47 AM
just talked to the dyno mechanic today a he said that the dyno maps on the pc website. Are junk and that I need a custom built map for my bike. Is he telling me the truth or is he full of it?
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posted April 10, 2008 12:56 PM
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just talked to the dyno mechanic today a he said that the dyno maps on the pc website. Are junk and that I need a custom built map for my bike. Is he telling me the truth or is he full of it?
How do you think DynoJet makes the Maps they put on the web Site? They use the exact same bike and make the Maps! When you put that map in yout bike it is going to be very close "IF YOU HAVE THE SAME BIKE With the SAME Mods!"
My Map is only good for 2000 and 2001 ZX12RLike I told Johnny Boy I will send him my map and I actually had small Spikes in HP in that RPM Range. My Bike would wheelie as it hit bumps at LOW RPM! If you have any skills at all, you can adjust your own map by hooking up the computer to your bike and watching real time exactly where the problems are and adding and subtracting a few % of fuel until it runs better! Make Notes in the Note Field and then you know what you are doing! Most people that map the bikes do not do this at below 2,500 rpm so even a "Custom" map is no good in that area!
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posted April 10, 2008 01:11 PM
Thanks you just saved me 300 dollars
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posted April 14, 2008 02:48 PM
is this muffler good for the step tube hindle mid pipe says its 2.25 out let
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180232270975&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008
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posted April 14, 2008 05:31 PM
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is this muffler good for the step tube hindle mid pipe says its 2.25 out let
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180232270975&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008
Try using with the Address so it will come up easy!
YES that is the exact Muffler!!
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