twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 10, 2008 08:08 PM
will these hurt the electrical system?
2 BRAND NEW HID 12,000 K (H4) WITH H/L HALOGEN/XENON & 35W MOTORCYCLE HEADLIGHTS guy wants $100.00 are they worth that,, says they are brand new and a 1 year warranty?
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
  
|
Texas12R
Zone Head
Posts: 545
|
posted January 12, 2008 04:15 PM
I reserve the right to be wrong.............
I would check with Merlin (ridgeracer) .
If the amp draw doesnt exceed the original equipment.......but there may be other considerations......like heat generation?
Mr Hill might be able to give you some info concerning overdrawing the electrical system
|
KZScott
Needs a life
high on speed
Posts: 7235
|
posted January 12, 2008 05:34 PM
i think the stator can be rewound to give a higher output if it has to, but wait for RR to see if that would be needed
____________
01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
|
twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 13, 2008 05:51 PM
BUMPED ,, anyone got anymore info on this subjust,, i went to you tube and saw a 900rr that had 4300s and they were bright as holy hell,, im wondering if 12000 will melt the lenses or not,, its a kit so it should work but would like a little more info on these if possible
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
|
tuusinii
Pro
Posts: 1031
|
posted January 14, 2008 12:35 AM
If they are real HID and they take the 35W like the text says no problem with electric because the originals consume 55W. But You need all the ballast and control boxes also. And there may be issues with the xenon bulb being in a different place and make Your light beam distracted. Look up for threads about REAL HID and You can find success stories and also less successful stories about installing HIDs.
|
VincentHill
Needs a life
Posts: 6520
|
posted January 14, 2008 10:04 AM
Texas 12R You remember!! I had to go to a 20 AmHr Battery to cover the draw. HID actually draw less Amps. the only problem is space for the unit.
____________
Made History @ Daytona and still one fast old man!!
|
twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 14, 2008 04:13 PM
Could really use some more input guys,, i want to know if these will hurt the electrical or not before i have them installed,, i got two units that are complete,, Hi/Lo Xenon/ Halogen
H4 Bulb 35 Watt 12000K,, these are new,, but ive seen that VH stated the need to use a different battery or something,, can someone elaborate or give me a call @ 718 314 9292 
also i have @ of these,, can i run both bulbs off of one balast,, any input would help guys,, dont want to fry anything! thanx
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
|
VincentHill
Needs a life
Posts: 6520
|
posted January 14, 2008 05:51 PM
That was with a High draw NX Nos Solenoid! SInce the Idea of the HID is more light but less Current draw to get better gas mileage I am 99% Sure your system will be Better off than worse off!
____________
Made History @ Daytona and still one fast old man!!
|
twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 14, 2008 07:12 PM
OK now that someone is telling me that its safe,, there are numerous connectors,, has anyone done one so i can get walked thru this,, i am capable just need a little help,, something isnt making sense,, i have a leftover conector,, and am questioning the use of the relay that is included,, i am wondering if the use of the other connector gets its power and thus the relay isnt needed,, can email deatailed pics. thanx
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
|
twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 14, 2008 10:02 PM
bump
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
|
VincentHill
Needs a life
Posts: 6520
|
posted January 15, 2008 05:23 AM
 Edited By: VincentHill on 15 Jan 2008 05:25
I hate to say this but on another Board I think someone did this! (zx12R .org) I would STRONGLY Suggest looking at the wiring from a car to see what current needs to go where! THIS IS NOT A Simple deal and I think you Jumped at an Idea before you realized what was involved! Are you hooking up 1 light for HID and the other Standard? In the cars, the Driving light is HID but the high beam is a std bulb!
12,000 K is NOT Huge! 35,000 K is good!
____________
Made History @ Daytona and still one fast old man!!
|
twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 15, 2008 06:01 AM
like in my post above i have 2 seperate units that are hi/lo xenon/halogen and both are getting hooked up.
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
|
lgm118icbm
Novice Class
Posts: 48
|
posted January 15, 2008 06:19 AM
I have a bi-xenon kit on my 12 and works like a charm! Only draws like 35 watts a piece after they warm up.
____________
Costa Mesa, Ca
03 ZX-12R
03 Z-1000SC
04 ZX-6R
98 Concours
|
twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 15, 2008 08:34 AM
been reading that the initial draw is like twice the norm,, so use of a relay is wise,, lgm did you use a relay and if so could you call me,, i want to figure this out before i attempt to do the install,, dont want to screw anything up.. thanx
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
|
twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 15, 2008 09:15 AM
anyone else,, have know how on these?
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
|
lgm118icbm
Novice Class
Posts: 48
|
posted January 15, 2008 11:03 AM
Edited By: lgm118icbm on 15 Jan 2008 11:06
The relay is all contained in mine. All you do is hook up the stock h4 sockets to the harness and hook up the other end of the harness to the battery. Then just hide the controller box and ballast and you're ready to rock.
Yea it must be a pretty big load at initial startup. Each of the 2 headlights has dual 12awg wires with dual 15amp fuses feeding them. So if you are thinking about drawing all that through your stock harness, I would stop in your tracks.
____________
Costa Mesa, Ca
03 ZX-12R
03 Z-1000SC
04 ZX-6R
98 Concours
|
VincentHill
Needs a life
Posts: 6520
|
posted January 15, 2008 12:05 PM
H/L did not record in my mind as Hi / Low. Just looked like another part of the description.
____________
Made History @ Daytona and still one fast old man!!
|
lgm118icbm
Novice Class
Posts: 48
|
posted January 15, 2008 12:10 PM
quote:
Are you hooking up 1 light for HID and the other Standard? In the cars, the Driving light is HID but the high beam is a std bulb!
I know some cars have the high as standard bulb (honda s2000) but some use the bi-xenon bulbs for high and low beam too. On my girlfriends BMW there is a bi-xenon that does both, just switches to a different beam pattern by moving this little shield that covers the element. It does however have a standard halogen high beam for flashing people.
____________
Costa Mesa, Ca
03 ZX-12R
03 Z-1000SC
04 ZX-6R
98 Concours
|
twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 15, 2008 05:25 PM
i have 2 complete sets,, 2 bulbs,, each bulb has a halogen and a xenon..
if someone has info that can help.. i think i have it figured out thanx to Kev,, but it needs to be double checked and not too sure how to do that,, kev if your reading,, maybe you could test polarity on your bike and forward the info that we discussed ,, there isnt a rush,, but as soon as i get the info i will mount them,, real curious how they will look,, whats the highbeam for anyhow if this are 3 times brighter than stock anyhow?? thanx Vic
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
|
twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 15, 2008 05:53 PM
here is what Kev proposed might be the correct setup,, although the black/white wires would have to be correct when spliced into the weather proof connector (which way?)
black to black and white to red or vice versa any how any input would be appreciated!
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
|
twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 15, 2008 07:07 PM
MORE BUMPS FOR INPUT!
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
|
twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 16, 2008 06:29 AM
all the know how on this board and noone has any input? does that ^^^^^^^^ look correct?
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
|
lgm118icbm
Novice Class
Posts: 48
|
posted January 16, 2008 06:29 AM
You got it right on the money. That would be my best guess.
Just plug your harness into your stock h4 harness and see what ohms out. The red wire on the mystery connector should be hot when your low beams are on and the black should be ground.
And just to be safe, make sure the black wire goes to post 85 on the relay and make sure the white wire goes to post 86.
If so, you should be good to go. =-)
____________
Costa Mesa, Ca
03 ZX-12R
03 Z-1000SC
04 ZX-6R
98 Concours
|
twista
Zone Head
" Get up, and Stay up ! "
Posts: 797
|
posted January 16, 2008 08:54 AM
Thanx Kev,, this particulat relay that came with it is a 40 amp and is not marked 85,86 etc..
like a normal bosch would be labeled.. but i am going to get a hold of a tester and fiddle with it.. thanx for the help! i really appreciate it.. Vic
____________
" When in Doubt, There is no Doubt !"
|
Texas12R
Zone Head
Posts: 545
|
posted January 16, 2008 02:25 PM
you might try sending ridgeracer a pm.....He was a teacher so he does excellent tutorials.
Keep in mind that he may be busy 
Let us know how it goes!
Oh and Thanks for Mr Hills input......I bet he going to get around to that book someday soon!
|
|
|
HOME
NEW TOPIC