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posted January 06, 2008 11:17 AM
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P.S. Democrats loves fags!!
Yes, yes we do. And because of it Dem fags love themselves.
Is there anything more embarrassing or disgusting than a self-loathing, closeted Republican that screams anti gay rhetoric at the top of his lungs and then gets busted doing meth with a gay hooker or trying to pick up men in an airport restroom?
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posted January 06, 2008 11:39 AM
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This thread topic more along the lines of a smackhouse forum rant. matter of fact ridge, there are a few threads over there now slamming liberal ideologies, perhaps you can offer them some defense?
I've been trying to avoid the smackhouse for a good year now. I have more important things to spend my limited free time mental energy on or as Barbara Bush said when asked about the Iraq war "why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that"
Besides the worm has turned. Despite what a few mostly white, middle class, middle aged guys who ride Kawasakis think the country has taken a big turn to the left. The big news out of Iowa was the turn out numbers. Democratic caucus turnout was almost 300% that of 2004 and Republicans only saw a 68% increase. The young people turned out in record numbers making up more of the caucus then they do the general population and went almost entirely Dem. And remember all the R's had to do was show up and vote. The D's had to hang out for 2-3 hours to participate.
Blueford is right about one thing. Bush and the neo cons have ruined the Republican brand for at least the next generation if not longer. Have you noticed all the R's jumping ship and saying they won't seek another term in congress? They know their toast in the next election.
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buddy
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posted January 06, 2008 07:06 PM
 Edited By: buddy on 6 Jan 2008 19:10
Don't know where you get your information. The report I watched on national news said it was 24 Billion that was pallatized, sent to Iraq and lost. The report stated that an additional 24 Billion was pallatized, sent to Iraq and lost again. I've told you before, I am not supporting the Republican or Democrat party. I try to find a good person of any party or independant to vote for.
You appearantly got your information about the Ron Paul statement from Google. I looked it up also. What you failed to mention is that, although he accepts responsibility for the statement since it came from someone in his supporting group, he didn't write the statement. The article goes on to say that there in absolutely nothing like that attributed to him either before or after the appearance of the statement. I had never heard of Ron Paul before this election, only that I liked what he has been saying. Due to your pointing out of the statement, I've done some research on him and like him even more now.
There was no backing up by me when I said I didn't say that FDR was wrong taking the country into WW11. In my first post, at the end of the paragraph, I stated that wars are sometimes necessary. That one seems to meet the criteria.
What I was trying to do with that post is to point out that, while there are some bad things done by Republicans, the same occurs in the Democrat party. You chastise me for only nameing Democrats in the info I provided even though for the above purpose it wouldn't have made sense to include Republicans.
You seem to dig up a lot of trash on people, which is easy to do on politicians, but I notice it's only on Republicans. They are disgusting as a group, but I don't think any worse than the Dems. This is born out by poles rating congress at, the last I heard, 11% approval.
I don't want to keep this up, as it can never end unless someone stops. I quit going to coffee because of endless conversations like this, and hopefully, this will be my last post on this subject (unless I get irritated again). 
I must apologize to my friend Vincent as I truly had no intention of messing up your thread like this. Friends at our age are not something to take lightly. By the way, since this is a racing forum, I did go to the track today. It was much more fun than this BS .
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posted January 06, 2008 09:26 PM
We're all in this together, and we are the government, you know "of the people, for the people, and by the people, " that sort of stuff. From what I've read in this thread, it's clear that many of you care very deeply about our country, and that's good for all of us. Somehow, we need to learn how to express our differences in ways that effects positive change and understanding rather than greater division and polarization. my 2cents.
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted January 06, 2008 10:18 PM
I agree Megabyte....I know some people wont agree with me, but that is why I dont vote parties, I vote views... I will cast a vote on what a candidate is willing and able to do for us, not for himself, or for a certain protion of the population...
I know a lot of people will vote straight party tickets, thats their right. I however are of a different opinion.
I think we need to start worrying about our own backyards and quit playing policeman for the rest of the world...once we are straigh here at home, we can worry about helping others....How can we worry about feeding starving children in Africa or anyplace else, until the belly of every child in america is full? doesnt make sense to me...
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posted January 07, 2008 07:33 AM
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You appearantly got your information about the Ron Paul statement from Google. I looked it up also. What you failed to mention is that, although he accepts responsibility for the statement since it came from someone in his supporting group, he didn't write the statement. The article goes on to say that there in absolutely nothing like that attributed to him either before or after the appearance of the statement. I had never heard of Ron Paul before this election, only that I liked what he has been saying. Due to your pointing out of the statement, I've done some research on him and like him even more now.
Sure, he says he didn't write it even though it was in his newsletter under his byline and he takes responsibility and feels awful about it. Simple question did he print a retraction? No.
And of course when asked about campaign contributions from these guys
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/ron-paul-one-388512.html
true he can't control who sends him money but he kept it because??? Because they would do bad things with it...
So racism issue aside I'm curious if in your research you came across the fact the Ron Paul believes the First Amendment only applies to congress, not the states. That the states could establish their own state religion, restrict free speech, etc. Its only the Feds who can't.
The fact that this has been settled law since the adoption of the 14th amendment and it's equal protection clause doesn't seem to bother him. Oh wait I got the wrong he wasn't to abolish the 14th amendment too!!!
It is amazing how some people have been so conditioned to believe that liberal is bad that when they look at the the disaster that is Bush and the right there only answer is to jump farther right from the frying pan into the fire. That has to be the problem, Bush and his ilk just weren't far enough to the right. What we need is a true Ayn Rand Utopian like Ron Paul.
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posted January 07, 2008 07:36 AM
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This thread topic more along the lines of a smackhouse forum rant. matter of fact ridge, there are a few threads over there now slamming liberal ideologies, perhaps you can offer them some defense?
I've been trying to avoid the smackhouse for a good year now. I have more important things to spend my limited free time mental energy on or as Barbara Bush said when asked about the Iraq war "why should Iwaste my beautiful mind on something like that"
Besides the worm has turned. Despite what a few mostly white, middle class, middle aged guys who ride Kawasakis think the country has taken a big turn to the left. The big news out of Iowa was the turn out numbers. Democratic caucus turnout was almost 300% that of 2004 and Republicans only saw a 68% increase. The young people turned out in record numbers making up more of the caucus then they do the general population and went almost entirely Dem. And remember all the R's had to do was show up and vote. The D's had to hang out for 2-3 hours to participate.
Blueford is right about one thing. Bush and the neo cons have ruined the Republican brand for at least the next generation if not longer. Have you noticed all the R's jumping ship and saying they won't seek another term in congress? They know their toast in the next election.
Comrade Fool, you have a beautiful mind, but it's made of shit!
The Obama campaign made direct and blatant appeals to out of state college students to register and caucus for their candidate; the Des Moines Register has reported on this.
College age voters (that's how the obama union/college machine works through leftist university support and Soros' money, will hopefully impose a dream Dem ticket for Republicans, "The Obama/Clinton ticket" with Rosie O'Donnell as Secretary of Defense.
Too funny, Dems let 20 year old college girls decide who their candidate will be.
A BLACK MUSLIM, whose name sounds like OSAMA'S! Yeah that will go over big in the general election with WHITE America. LMAO.
Liberals will always be fools!!
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VincentHill
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posted January 07, 2008 08:13 AM
SOMEONE!! Move this Thread over to the Smack House where I should have posted it to begin with Pleaze!
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ridgeracer
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posted January 07, 2008 11:12 AM
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A BLACK MUSLIM, whose name sounds like OSAMA'S! Yeah that will go over big in the general election with WHITE America. LMAO.
Liberals will always be fools!!
Your the fool if you really believe the election dynamic is that simple.
First the Democrats will be absolutely united come Nov. Honestly, even some Democrats question whether we are ready for an African American president, but they will ALL vote for him. And like many anti-war progressives I really, Really, REALLY don't want Hillary, the business as usual, pro corporate Dem to win the nomination, but I will vote for her. I will send her money, I will phone bank and ring doorbells for her. They can paint her name on the side of my house if they want to. And so say all the Dems I've spoke to, read, or heard. We will not be divided by a third party candidate and we are pulling out all the stops.
The Republicans would have a hard time in a good year, and this is not a good year. They are fractured and it will only get worse. No votes don't win elections, yes votes do. What is Buddy going to do if Ron Paul goes 3rd party? What is the religious right going to do after watching Huckabee get crucified by his own party?
Thats right. The controlling corporate wing of the Rs will let the religious right vote for them, give them money, and campaign for them, but they will never let them actually be in power. The theo-cons finally have one of their own in a viable position of power and you watch how quickly the corporatist destroy him. They own the press after all.
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Huckabee's populist message and Christian roots resonated in Iowa. Nevertheless, some conservatives are dismayed with Huckabee's victory in Iowa.
Richard A. Viguerie, the author of Conservatives Betrayed: How George W. Bush and Other Big Government Republicans Hijacked the Conservative Cause called Huckabee's win "bad news" for the Republican Party.
"Mike Huckabee is a Christian socialist. He is a good man, but with a Big Government heart," Viguerie said in a news release late Thursday night. "He is the most liberal of all the Republican presidential candidates on economic issues."
Viguerie said Huckabee is inclined to solve any problem by passing laws or launching another government program. "If you like President George W. Bush, you'll love Mike Huckabee," Viguerie said. "Conservatives in New Hampshire and the other early primary states had better wake up, and make certain the Huckabee victory is confined to the subsidized ethanol fields of Iowa."
Rush Limbaugh, the conservative radio host and opinion molder, also has criticized Huckabee: "Ladies and gentlemen, Gov. Huckabee, mighty fine man and is a great Christian, is not a conservative, he's just not," Limbaugh said this week.
Is this the year the Christian conservatives finally figure out the R's don't really give a shit about them or their God?
But most important is the biggest block of all, New Voters. The half of the country that doesn't usually even bother to vote. They are coming out of the woodwork and they are coming out Democratic. They are getting off the couch because they are hurting economically and job wise and they are smart enough to know its the guys who have been in power the last two terms that have been hurting them.
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MadMike
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posted January 07, 2008 09:33 PM
moved to the smack!!!
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