kaw12
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posted November 01, 2007 01:08 PM
pciii usb
i have a pciii usb, but i have decided to run without it. i have a full system akra and im using my stock filters. the bike is stock except full sytem. i dont have any hesitation whatsoever, im in florida(dont know if the thick air has something to do with it) but it seems to run great without it. my question is/ is it a bad idea to run without the pc? i also would like to run my bmc street filters without the pc/ so far no problems without and i dont mind the response of the bike, but is it safe? (oh) i also have the kleen air mod but not the crank mod just the standard! thanks!
  
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madmike
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posted November 02, 2007 07:08 AM
I dont think it is bad, but you will get more out of your bike with it, more power, better gas milage. and probably a couple of other things I am sure other people have noticed...
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TRNorBRN6001
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posted November 02, 2007 12:53 PM
Trade ya for a PCIIIr.
Stick with it and just get a good tune!
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KZScott
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posted November 02, 2007 05:32 PM
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i also have the kleen air mod but not the crank mod just the standard! thanks!
huh? i thought the kleen air mod was the crank case vent mod. can you define the 2 different kinds?
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kaw12
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posted November 02, 2007 08:51 PM
 Edited By: kaw12 on 2 Nov 2007 21:51
i dont want to trade for a pc3r but good try.
i tied the two hoses together and plugged the vacuum hose! and then there's a crankcase mod!
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KZScott
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posted November 03, 2007 04:46 AM
Edited By: KZScott on 3 Nov 2007 05:55
i have the "crank case vent mod" on my bike. the crankcase now vents to the kleen air system, and the 2 hoses that went to the airbox are gone, along with the smog pump. the holes left in the airbox are plugged. your setup is pretty much like block off plates correct?
can kinda see it here
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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johnnycheese
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posted November 03, 2007 06:02 AM
Edited By: johnnycheese on 3 Nov 2007 07:02
and this mod will starve the oil pump
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TRNorBRN6001
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posted November 03, 2007 06:24 AM
I was just kidding ya, just get a good tune on that PCIII.
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kaw12
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posted November 03, 2007 06:53 AM
nice motor, yeah trn..its like blockoffs but johnnycheese i never heard of this mod starving the oil pump!
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KZScott
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posted November 03, 2007 12:46 PM
Its nothing like that vaccum pump Karl was running(and got rid of), lots of guys do the mod like i have
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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johnnycheese
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posted November 04, 2007 11:33 AM
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nice motor, yeah trn..its like blockoffs but johnnycheese i never heard of this mod starving the oil pump!
this mod has been around for decades but at idle I have seen more than a few bikes with oil lights on.
remember the Kleen air system only works with high vacuum (low rpm's)
at high Rpm's the system doesn't suck squart
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almost_les
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posted November 10, 2007 03:48 PM
careful running without the pc. ive seen bikes with aftermarket exhaust run great, but when they are thrown on a dyno with an a/f sensor, it turns out they are running too lean. i would see if you can find a local shop to do a baseline pull to see how you're running
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kaw12
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posted November 12, 2007 07:16 AM
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careful running without the pc. ive seen bikes with aftermarket exhaust run great, but when they are thrown on a dyno with an a/f sensor, it turns out they are running too lean. i would see if you can find a local shop to do a baseline pull to see how you're running
what would you say is too lean? All the local shops around here are loco, they want 350 bucks for a custom tune and im not sure they even know what theyre doing! i might just go back to vincent hills map/ atleast i wont be running leeeeean.
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