mickey6
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posted October 26, 2007 08:04 PM
good but cheap??
Hey all I'm new to this forum stuff but I have a 2001 zx-12r and I was wonder whats is the best bang for the buck as far as exhaust goes......and if you put one on do you have to get a power comander??? thanks for the help
  
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zx12mark
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posted October 26, 2007 08:46 PM
everybody likes what they have on their bike.i have a micron full system with a pc3r.
mine is a street bike.stock arm.
i ran 1--- 9.6 in may and many 9.7's...........5 in a row 1 nite.i have never been beat in 7 years by any zx12r's or busa's set up like mine.micron is as good as it gets as far as i'm concerned.
check out what they make.
huge r and d company.
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mickey6
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posted October 26, 2007 08:50 PM
thanks mark I'll look into that. my bike is bone stock as far as performance. I made this one look good first, fast second....unlike my 2003 yamaha roadstar warrior fast first on that one LOL
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KZScott
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posted October 26, 2007 09:11 PM
as far as bang for the buck goes, you could probly pick up a cheap used muzzy system. make sure you map it correctly with a PC
as far as all out power, i think the step hindle is the best, VH will probly mention it here any time 
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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mickey6
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posted October 26, 2007 09:14 PM
thanks I was looking at muzzy, now if I don't get a pc will my bike run like crap?? or just not be at full output???
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ZXLNT
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posted October 27, 2007 01:06 PM
Yes and Yes.
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Megabyte
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posted October 27, 2007 01:20 PM
Do a search on exhaust systems. This subject has been debated to death, and yes everyone thinks what they have is best. My full Akro on my 1361 makes 212 rwhp, and close to 125 ft/lbs torque. When my engine was stock, I never lost a dyno run with my akro. I had a friend who's stock 12 was identical to mine down to the color. Stock to Stock, His bike made a couple more Hp then mine. The same shop put a Hindle on his and an akro on mine. After the upgrade, my 12 made a few more hp then his, so, that my story, and I'm sticking to it  The Akros are so well desinged for our 12s that you don't need a Power Commander.
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thanks I was looking at muzzy, now if I don't get a pc will my bike run like crap?? or just not be at full output???
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rgeorge
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posted October 27, 2007 03:36 PM
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Good but cheap??
Best bang for the buck is to rip the cat from the stock exhaust.
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ninja12
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posted October 27, 2007 05:05 PM
How do you define best bang?
Cheapest pipe period.
Cheapest pipe to get to perform well ?
Best performance?
Different pipes have different charateristics(sp)
Muzzy has a raw hot rod sound and vibrations and will require a PC for good street manners.
Akrapovic is refined, a lot smoother and quite and does not require a PC.
No experience with hindle,
Those will be your most popular 3.
What do you like.
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KZScott
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posted October 27, 2007 10:58 PM
what kind of driving do you do?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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MadMike
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posted October 28, 2007 08:28 PM
fork out the$$ and get the brock pipe... You will not regret it!
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mickey6
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posted October 29, 2007 02:54 PM
thanks for all the imputs I will probly go with the akro cause I don't really want a PC... but I do like the sound of the muzzy.....ERRRR I can't afford either right now so I have time to deside LOL!!!
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ninja12
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posted October 30, 2007 12:30 PM
There are some good deals around here if you don't mind used.
Just post in the classified when you are ready.
I think there is a muzzy in there now.
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mickey6
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posted October 30, 2007 02:37 PM
how do I get to the classified section???
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KZScott
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posted October 30, 2007 07:36 PM
http://www.bikeland.org/board/forumdisplay.php?FID=3
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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VincentHill
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posted October 31, 2007 12:25 PM
Look for a USED Step Hindle on e-bay! The problem with Any exhaust nowadays except the Muzzy Pipe is the Dollar has become Worthless and if not made here (Like we are now the 3rd world country) it will be expensive! When I bought the Hindle a Canadian Dollar was worth $0.65 and that was in 2002. I bought a Used Akra for $800 and sold it for $600 which is about I paid for the new Hindle
For NO Pc3, find a used Akra or a Non Step Hindle. You will need a PC3 with the Muzzy or Strep Hindle
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zrexpilot
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posted October 31, 2007 02:20 PM
I have a used Muzzy with oval can for sale. 375.00 pus shipping.
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