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mrsantafe


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posted June 22, 2007 07:18 AM        Edited By: mrsantafe on 22 Jun 2007 08:20
Incredible!! Please add my name to your growing list as a future customer.
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maximus


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posted June 22, 2007 01:11 PM        
Nice job RR.
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zx12adam


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posted June 23, 2007 04:57 AM        
Good fuckin job.
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pmkin10r


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posted June 23, 2007 02:37 PM        
Congratulations RR, kinda conjures up images of the Matrix movie. With respect to the b-models restriction would a TRE not (albeit crudely) defeat it?
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ridgeracer


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posted June 23, 2007 07:23 PM        Edited By: ridgeracer on 23 Jun 2007 20:24
Why buy a TRE? All you would need to do is cut the 1st gear wire and splice it into the second gear wire. The the ECU will never see first gear. Second and First gear will appear as second to the ecu.




Printable pdf version: http://www.bikeland.info/pdf/ecu/nofirstgear.pdf

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shiphteey


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posted June 24, 2007 03:40 AM        
I hear you on using the 2nd gear mapping for 1st and 2nd, but are there any differences other than the 4k to 6k restriction on other bikes (like the A1) from 1st to 2nd, or is having a 2nd gear map on 1st gear not as optimal but better nevertheless than the 4k to 6k restriction?
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ridgeracer


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posted June 24, 2007 09:32 AM        
I have yet to get my hands on an A1 so I have no idea what it looks like. The A2 doesn't have a first gear only ignition map. It uses the same map for all gears. I'm assuming the A1 doesn't have a 1st gear map either. Actually I just discussed this in detail in the other thread (complete with difference maps that quantify the difference between the different ignition maps).
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entropy


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posted June 24, 2007 11:20 AM        
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I have yet to get my hands on an A1 so I have no idea what it looks like. The A2 doesn't have a first gear only ignition map. It uses the same map for all gears. I'm assuming the A1 doesn't have a 1st gear map either. Actually I just discussed this in detail in the other thread (complete with difference maps that quantify the difference between the different ignition maps).


RR, I have a brand new A1 ECU sittin' on the shelf. If you'd like to open it up and take a peek inside, i'll send it to you tomorrow am!!!!
Karl
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ridgeracer


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posted June 24, 2007 11:51 AM        
I am working on detailed instructions on HOW to flash a ZX-12 ECU. And of course page 1 is the following disclaimer.

quote:
USER DISCLAIMER

User, his/her heirs, assigns, legal representatives and attorneys, knowingly and voluntarily release any and all claims, demands, or causes of action, known or unknown, which he/she may have against the author, his/her successors, assigns, representatives and lessees arising from any injury or illness, including death or disability, incurred in connections with the use of the information contained in this document.

No warranty is expressed nor implied. User assumes all responsibility for the results of using the information contained herein. User understands that the use of this information could result in the destruction of User's ECU, damage or destruction of his/her engine, and sudden and/or unexpected loss of power or surge in power resulting in loss of control of User's motorcycle causing serious injury or death.

User agrees that if he/she uses this information on an ECU not owned by User that User will inform the ECUs owner of the possible hazards.

For more information contact bike.mbially@olympus.net




I don't want anyone to come crying to me because they turned their ECU into a brick or killed themselves. God knows that if there is someone stupid enough to try to trim his hedge with a lawnmower there is someone stupid enough to put a bunch of zeros in an ignition map and flash it into his/her bike and then go for a test ride on some high speed sweeper where the bike suddenly loses power at 8000 rpm and then surges on again at 7500 causing him/her to wipe out. If you don't know what your doing find someone who does. If you don't know that you don't know what your doing then this disclaimer is for you.

Item number two. Knowing HOW to flash the ZX-12 map is not the same as knowing WHAT to flash in the ZX-12 map.

Obviously it would of been silly of me to spend hours and hours of time figuring out what each and every byte of the map was for and only THEN find out if I could actually change it and reflash it. So of course I figured out HOW before I figured out WHAT.

The map definitions I have made for the Enginuity software so far include only the largest (and therefore easiest to find) Ignition and Fuel maps and a few misc gear maps. There are maps for water temp, air pressure sensor alignment, etc. It includes 3D maps, 2D maps and single byte on/off feature switches like enabling the A/B map feature.

Then of course I need to write a separate definition for each version of ECU A1, A2, B1/B2 and I also have a UK A1. They get easier as I learn what I'm looking for but will still take time.

All shall be revealed, in time.

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ridgeracer


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posted June 24, 2007 12:14 PM        
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RR, I have a brand new A1 ECU sittin' on the shelf. If you'd like to open it up and take a peek inside, i'll send it to you tomorrow am!!!!
Karl


I'll take you up on that offer but there is no huge rush. I need to get back to work work Monday. I wouldn't be able to get to it until some time between Saturday and the 4th

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entropy


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posted June 24, 2007 12:26 PM        
quote:
quote:
RR, I have a brand new A1 ECU sittin' on the shelf. If you'd like to open it up and take a peek inside, i'll send it to you tomorrow am!!!!
Karl


I'll take you up on that offer but there is no huge rush. I need to get back to work work Monday. I wouldn't be able to get to it until some time between Saturday and the 4th


ALL RIGHT!!!

PM the address you want me to ship it to you!

Thanks!!
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posted June 25, 2007 05:10 PM        
all the way around to all involved with this endeavor
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