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woppi


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posted May 28, 2007 09:49 AM        
how much nos (wet) will stock pistons hold out ??



how much nos (wet) will stock pistons hold out ?? -------- ZX12R -----------

nos wet kit + colder plugs + retard timing ( 3 degree ??? or more ?? )

60 hp - save ??? or may be 70 hp ????

thx

woppi

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shane661


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posted May 28, 2007 09:52 AM        
I think it largely depends on what kind of racing you intend. 1/8th, 1/4 mile? Land speed racing?
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woppi


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posted May 28, 2007 11:04 AM        

sorry, i forgot

only 1/4 mile racing !!!!!!!

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TRNorBRN6001


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posted May 28, 2007 12:48 PM        
70 shot on stockers, but some people may have had a stock valve let go from the juice.

Wet is not an easy install on a 12 and can be rather expensive. You may just like a dry 40 for the 1/4, as it is easier to install and has worked well for many people.
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buddy


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posted May 28, 2007 04:36 PM        Edited By: buddy on 28 May 2007 17:46
Woppi,

If it was me, I don't think I would go over 60 HP without internal modifications. I think the jets you have are .024 NOS and .028 fuel. Thats an 80 HP shot, so the maximum final percentage should be 70-75%. I believe the books say to retard 2 degrees for each 50HP, so try 3 degrees for a start. It will be a little safer and you probably won't notice the difference in 1 degree. You may want to consider useing higher octane fuel, also.

I had a sidewinder (Muzzy) and it seemed to make more power without the baffle. I didn't prove it on a dyno tho. If you like noise and the perception of power, take it out.

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woppi


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posted May 28, 2007 10:00 PM        
Thank You !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@TRNorBRN6001, i got buddys wet nos system !!! and it is top !!! not easy to install, but

anyway, i can do it !!!!! you have to breake your fingers, then you can mount it ???? !!!! hi hi hi

@buddy, i wil try it as like you say !!!

Thank You

woppi

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Wolf Racing


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posted May 30, 2007 03:44 AM        
Hi woppi,

We run a wet system and have not had any problems with standard valves. We do run titanium retainers and the muzzys heavier valve springs though.

Yes it's tight alright.





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woppi


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posted May 30, 2007 08:21 AM        
@ wolf racing

how much do you spray ?? your jettings ??

with stock pistons ???

thx
woppi

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Wolf Racing


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posted May 31, 2007 01:47 AM        
woppi,

about 150 shot. 32 NOS, 34 Fuel. C16, 13:1 CR. MTC pistons, that have been in the bike for 4 years now!.

Cheers,

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woppi


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posted May 31, 2007 03:58 AM        
thx

after saison, i will put some other pistons inside !!!

is it not to dangerous to do 32 nos and 34 fuel ?? aren“t 36 fuel jets saver ??

or gets the engine to much fuel with 36#

woppi

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Wolf Racing


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posted May 31, 2007 02:11 PM        
We run a progressive controller so the PC map is rich up hi when the full NOS comes in. We keep a close eye on the plugs and pistons and haven't seen any ing to make us worry......Yet.
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5000SE


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posted June 04, 2007 12:49 PM        
I'm just running a 50 shot on my UK bike, given it some hard work and it's been fine on standard ignition (I was running advanced before I added the nos).
It is a bitch to install though - very hard to fit nice short lines unless you mount the whole lot inside the airbox, and I wasn't willing to do that.

Runs a treat, and to be honest for a road bike a 50bhp boost is plenty when there's already 177 at the rear wheel to start with.


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woppi


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posted June 06, 2007 05:37 AM        






my system ( from buddy ) mounted

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buddy


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posted June 06, 2007 06:46 AM        
Woppi,

That looks awfully familiar. Good job.

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