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posted February 05, 2007 11:31 AM
 Edited By: shiphteey on 5 Feb 2007 11:33
true true, haha. Unless of course Iceman is riding it.
I was just pointing out that no matter what Shane will have an excuse. He says it takes no skill to ride fast on the street....the implication being all luck, right? What else is there left to explain why lots of people who do it aren't DEAD? Maybe he is just too WIDE to lane split?
I was just bringing the fact that he ran a best of 6.9 with 17/47 and I run consistent 6.5 with 18/44. I trap 118 and he traps 10 mph less. 10. Even with our weight difference 10 mph is HUGE....those in the know know what I'm talking about....I would leave him high and dry by 15-20 mph AND bikes in the 1/4....even with THAT gearing!!!!! He will keep saying that its just my weight when really its weight and skill.
Same goes for his Maxton pass. I ran 185 to his 184. I ran 18/44 and he ran 17/46. Yet somehow I'M the one w/no skills.....
And then he wanted to talk about John and Dave the 14 and 10 guys ... they are cool peeps that aren't pros launching but who I would easily put $ on over Warp @ the strip. I have run with Dave, John and Shane and can say that Shane is the easiest to pass in terms of how much throttle I have to give and for how long....unless he goes out and gets the damn bottle like I've been TELLING him to do FOREVER now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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shane661
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posted February 05, 2007 01:14 PM
Edited By: shane661 on 5 Feb 2007 13:57
I am saying that the way you guys are riding on the street does not prove you have skills in a true racing venue. In your case, you have some documented results. But I think you would agree that most of the guys who claim to be so fast on the street have a rude awakening coming when they go to the track.
I stick by my statement that riding dangerously fast on the street doesn't prove anything....other than you can ride dangerously fast on the street! Really this whole "pissing contest" is about on thing to me: Your statement that I don't come out on rides because you guys can just blow me away with all your skill and speed. Believe it or not, I have some legitimate concern about the risks you are putting yourself, and other's, under, when you ride like that on the street. And I don't want to wind up taking those kind of risks.
If you don't feel that 110 lbs. of weight and you having your bike sitting 2.5" lower in the rear makes a difference at the track...well, ok. I would say that my low 1.8's with a strap don't look too shabby compared to your -2.5" rear/strap and high 1.6's. I will best those 1.6's of yours, this season.
Again, with Maxton, I feel I did very well with my setup. You can't howl about my gearing, but then forget about the extra weight I am carting around. Bottom line, you beat me by less than 1 mph n/a.
As for you easily passing me...In your video you are running 18/44, right? The same gearing that you ran last time we were on the street and I had the 17/47 gearing. I stick by my statement that I can easily walk away from you under those conditions, based on what I saw on our last ride.
You have stated that I can't beat you in the 1/8 this season, and I accept that challenge....regardless of my weight and your obviously superior A model! See you at the track (and bring your friends)!
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posted February 05, 2007 01:25 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 5 Feb 2007 13:29
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Jeez, this turned into a pissing contest fast. Ilike the fact that you are documenting your rides though. All you need is a swarm of police cars to trail you to your home one time after going 160 + on public roads. slowed me down a bit. I love to go fast too, I wish there was LSR events with the same frequency as drag racing events. Drag racing is fun, but top speed racing is way more fun for me. Going 180+ does it for me better then 115, or 140's.
I'm going to tell your Dad ....lol...lol....
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shiphteey
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posted February 05, 2007 02:23 PM
LOL "bottom line" you went 1 mph faster than I did @ Maxton....somehow 18/44 to 17/46 isn't that significant. Bro I weigh less than you but I'm LMFAO cuz you think that THAT type of gearing makes it = playing field.
Oh, and if you're talking about the ONE time I had NO Ram air connected, YOU got the hit and rolled off in 4th or whatever and think you "won"?
ANY TIME YOU WANT TO RUN ME 18/44 TO YOUR WHATEVER GEARING I WILL ACCEPT YOUR CHALLENGE. ROLL-ON, 1/8, 1/4, MILE, 9/10. WHATEVER. Your ass is TOAST.
Just ask around....I busted 1.8 bone stock 1st time out....took you over 100 passes to do a 1.8....come on man....keep it real man. No strap, no lowering link, no SHINKO, stock gearing.
I have done better 60 ft times on my cbr 600 f2 stock height/wheelbase no strap on 1/2 a gallon of gas causing it to shoot up & wheelie every run YOU REMEMBER THAT!
YOU REALLY THINK BEING CONSISTENTLY 1/2 A SECOND AND 10 MPH SLOWER THAN IN IN THE 1/8 MILE IS JUST DUE TO MY WEIGHT AND MODS? LOL Not asking for props, just giving you a reality check.
100 lbs does NOT equal to 10 mph in the 1/8!
Don't worry though bro...this season I will have fun bustin yo ass all day and taking your $100 at Maxton....cya soon bro!
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shane661
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posted February 05, 2007 02:33 PM
Edited By: shane661 on 5 Feb 2007 15:09
Are you saying that you went more than 1mph faster at Maxton, n/a? If you can do better, then prove it.
It wasn't ONE time that I walked you on the street with that gearing setup. Keep dreaming, super-rider!
I don't care about what you "busted" 1st time out. Prove it at the track this season. You have an open invitation.
As for the 100 runs, I am pretty proud of that. While you were posting up and bragging at every chance...I was going to the track to improve my skills. And that is why I will be faster than you by the end of the season.
As for the 10 mph...well, what does hp equal? Mph, right? You think I might be down 10hp (since my bike hasn't been tuned on the dyno, like yours has , or even seen a tune-up in 20k)? You think down 10hp and +110 lbs. MIGHT make a big difference in the 1/8th? And your best, n/a was 118, and mine was 110. So, 8 mph.
And if it were real racing, I would grab .1-.3 back just on R/T! Oh, that's right, that doesn't count with you hero-type street guys!
I will easily take that $100 from you at Maxton.
Like I said, I will beat you this season. And you won't like it. And it won't be on the street...because that is not where I choose to take my risks.
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posted February 05, 2007 03:07 PM
Edited By: shiphteey on 5 Feb 2007 15:09
DUDE, I had NO RAM AIR CONNECTED AND HAD NO LOWER....REMEMBER ... THE PLASTIC UPPER WAS FLAPPING AROUND AT 140ISH BECAUSE IT WASN'T BOLTED/CLIPPED TO ANYTHING UNDERNEATH IT, RIGHT?!?!? Pshh....call it what you want bro....
Prove it at the track? Prove what? How many time slips of me running 18/44 do you want? HAH, calling ME out when you are THAT SLOW!?!?! Everyone reading this is thinking why would a guy so slow call out someone quicker/faster? Nah bro, send me a slip when you hit 6.5 and I'll come out and run 18/44...otherwise, as usual, you & I running would be a waste of time. We are not even in the same class!
Yeah, my BEST n/a is also what I run ALL THE TIME n/a....unlike your sketchy, flukey 110. You CONSISNTENTLY RUN 108s on AVERAGE!
And if we were REALLY racing you would have red-light a lot more than I! Ever run @ the 1/4? Sometimes you red light and DON'T get a SLIP! I'd rather get a slip, I'd rather not "Take myself out" so I make sure not to red light. You have never "raced" in your life on a bike! Test and tune and ONE maxton event? Get outta here man!!!!!
You will be beating me this season? Bring it. Until then shove it....cuz I have more skill than you, more HP than you, and weigh less. So unless you're rockin a 60 shot and have the BALLS to use it save it bro.
Consistent 7s in the 1/8 mile and consistent 170s in the mile aboard a modified zx12 in the standing mile is nothing to brag about!
See ya when I see ya.
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shane661
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posted February 05, 2007 03:11 PM
Edited By: shane661 on 5 Feb 2007 15:46
BS on the redlights. That is really absurd. 1 redlight in my last 50 runs, and that was a .49x. Don't talk out your ass. I am very consistent on R/T.
As far as bragging....that is not my style. See your posts as a reference.
You will lose, and I will laugh, and post video.
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posted February 05, 2007 03:18 PM
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DUDE, I had NO RAM AIR CONNECTED AND HAD NO LOWER....REMEMBER ... THE PLASTIC UPPER WAS FLAPPING AROUND AT 140ISH BECAUSE IT WASN'T BOLTED/CLIPPED TO ANYTHING UNDERNEATH IT, RIGHT?!?!? Pshh....call it what you want bro....
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Oh man, who's making the excuses now? LOL!!!
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shiphteey
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posted February 05, 2007 05:16 PM
Yeah, seriously flapping plastics and no ram air is an "excuse" .... a REASON not an excuse. Stay in the throttle with me for more than a few seconds and see what happens bro.
Go on, slam, stretch and airshift your bike.....you'll still lose even in the short races...guess what happens when the runs get longer big boy?
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posted February 05, 2007 11:54 PM
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are you taking the Frank Kinsey school of racing class? I took it at Moroso speedway in '92, raced a couple of times but many of the locals down there are idiot drug dealers from miami etc.....every race was red flaged at least once and they ran out of abulances (started with 2 that made 2 runes each) and had to medivac twice. good luck down there http://www.bikeland.org/board/images/icons/icon29.gif
While down there I'll be attending the CCS Penguin Racing School. Hopefully the ambulances won't slow us up. I really wanna' ride Daytona soon and need to get this track time in at Homestead
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posted February 05, 2007 11:56 PM
Wow after scrolling through this thread I noticed it turned squidish.
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posted February 06, 2007 03:16 AM
it started squidish, and despite any attempts at redeeming it to any quality it still went down the flip-flops and oakleys route....
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posted February 06, 2007 06:03 AM
By the way, Your parents hate it....NO matter what spped you trap in the radar guns or at the track.
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posted February 06, 2007 06:04 AM
Oh yeah, and smoking why is it again that your 14 is RACE ONLY?
Isnt the tag laying in the tool box?
PS. I have a court date today!
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posted February 06, 2007 09:44 AM
Slug, that is your opinion and nothing more. I don't think riding in full leathers and doing top end runs is squidly (flip-flop/oakley route). It became a playful pissing contest (Shane and I are cool w/one another, we take jabs at each other all the time but help each other out all the time too). Last I checked we were going back and forth about strip runs and the occaisional top end run.....not typical squid stuff last I checked. We weren't @ Starbucks or doing 1st gear pow pow wheelies and burnouts @ red lights or anything.
Sorry bro, but anyone who runs Maxton, Bonneville, 9/10 and TX (soon) as well as running @ the strip is far from a squid. I choose to play on the streets....that doesn't all of a sudden negate my other runs and classify me as a squid. Does that mean anyone who runs the 9/10 is a squid too because its on "the streets?" Seems to me it has served them well considering how many records they smashed from running on "the streets" and testing and tuning like a mofo.
But again, its your opinion....and you know what they say about opinions.
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posted February 06, 2007 12:36 PM
you're right, i forgot squids are just described by their gear and not by their actions. How stupid of me to forget that....
You know what i have found to be closer to truth in life though, is that those who boast loudest about their skills tend to be lacking in some area of their lives. The constant harping about how great their riding skills, or cooking skills, or driving skills, or sports-playing skills all serve to attempt to improve some lack in self-esteem.
Maybe that's not true in your case, but man you sure do like to tout your own stellar skills and make them the center of the conversation...
I just hope that the skills check you write with your mouth has the bank account balance of real skills to back it up, because eventually someone out there drinking coffee, eating a donut, applying makeup and reading a book is going to do their level best to cash that check for you by changing lanes into you, not stopping behind you at the light, turning left across your travel path....etc.
Good luck, because the way you brag about riding on the street tells me that you need all the luck you can get, and a double portion on top.
And again, this is just my opinion, and you can do whatever you want with it. Like i said above, i do hope you don't take some other poor schmuck out some day doing these stupid things on busy crowded roads.
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shiphteey
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posted February 06, 2007 12:54 PM
There is a difference between bragging about one's skills and defending yourself from someone who is bigger, heavier, slower and less skilled yet continously talking smack (shane).
Go watch the video again. Never once did any of us wring these bike's necks with an intersecting road yet you keep saying that over and over.....don't you think we'd be dead VERY QUICKLY with those kind of odds? No road interesected w/the road we were on when going thru the gears like that so all this "left hand" business is ridiculous in this case.
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posted February 06, 2007 01:53 PM
If it was only in this thread that the bragging happened in, it would be one thing, and your latest comment would be accurate. But i haven't seen a thread YET in this particular forum where you haven't brought up your skills and your speed and your racing pedigree in copious detail while putting down other people, saying they can't have done something because you haven't beenable to, that they have never done real racing, that others haven't raced the same thing and therefore are not knowledgable, that others are not as fast or as quick or as precise or whatever else. It gets tiresome...Every thread you comment on becomes a "how great a guy and racer i, the great shiphteey, am. Look at me!!"
As for the rest...
Have you ever seen an idiot flip a u-turn from the right lane before? It's ugly. It's sudden. It's NEVER expected. Yet it happens...And what's great is there isn't always an intersection where these butt-helmets pull this idiocy.
Left-turning vehicles do not always mean intersecting roads, but then again you probably knew that i was just using those as an example and not as a direct commentary on your precious little video.
But i do wonder about the proximity of traffic in parts of the video, and the idea that you think you;re perfectly safe playing in those conditions. Whether or no the play involved top-speed runs or not is irrelevant.
But yes, in *THIS* case the left hand deal is 'ridiculous' but unless all of your street-riding is done on limited access roads without intersections, there is ALWAYS a chance that your superior riding skills will be put to the test. And when that time comes, whether or not you are speedracing or just puttering along, i hope your skills on the pavement match your skills on the internet forums. That's all i was saying. Apparently i did a poor job of conveying that thought the last 2 times i posted my opinion on the subject.
Perhaps this will clear it up.
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shane661
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posted February 06, 2007 01:56 PM
Edited By: shane661 on 6 Feb 2007 14:09
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There is a difference between bragging about one's skills and defending yourself from someone who is bigger, heavier, slower and less skilled yet continously talking smack (shane).
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I take offense to part of that statement. I don't continuously talk smack!
Btw, I checked A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking AND a Farmer's Almanac. You had a 37 mph tailwind when you ran 185 mph at Maxton. Also, corn crops WERE bad that year, just as predicted!
Case closed!
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shiphteey
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posted February 06, 2007 02:10 PM
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahha
BTW...would you talk some sense into zx12richard....? He's got 2 bottles on the damn 12 and says he's too "big" to run the mile.....I figured if he heard some words of encouragement from a 1/4 ton guy like yourself he'd come outta his shell and spray that biatch @ Golliad.
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