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posted November 22, 2006 10:03 AM
Heat Tape
Anyone using or experimented with heat tape on your exhaust. From what I've been reading, seems like wrapping the pipes can add some cheap hp.
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posted November 22, 2006 10:36 AM
I use it alot on my NOS dragbikes...The consept seems to be worth the effort,unless you pay to have your pipes aluma coated, then you get basically the same affect without the look off the wrapped pipes...Seems like it would be worth it on the zx12's for the benifit of keeping the heat away from the radiator/engine, and bodywork ect.ect....Maybe someone will chime in with more info than me...
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posted November 22, 2006 01:08 PM
Don't heat wrap titanium pipes.
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posted November 23, 2006 11:10 AM
I've been running Thermotec on my SS Akrapovic (both of them) since day one.
Definitely keeps the area around the motor, your legs and air box cooler.
P.S. - my 12 has had an Akrapovic since 600 miles and still has the stock (and unwarped) plastic fan. That right there tells you something about wrapping because the stock plastic fans are notorious for warping (or downright melting) with aftermarket headers.
I'm going to keep the stock exhaust on my R1 and I'm going to have the header and mid-pipe (cat is in the mid-pipe) Jet-Hot coated in a titanium finish. I haven't used Jet-Hot but hear good things about it.
If you do Jet-Hot, make absolutely positive your jobber is a pro and the application areas are very clearly marked. I know of a guy that had his Arata coated and they sprayed the entire header and mid-pipe and things wouldn't go back together again because of the added thickness (like where the header tubes fit into the collector).
It was a mess to fix and the jobber took the posture of "Well you didn't tell me not to spray the last 1.5" of the header pipes" etc...
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posted November 23, 2006 01:06 PM
 Edited By: Megabyte on 23 Nov 2006 13:06
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I've been running Thermotec on my SS Akrapovic (both of them) since day one.
Sounds like we have the same pipe, would 50' of the wrap be enough? How did you secure the it, hose clamps, wire?
Thanks,
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posted November 23, 2006 04:07 PM
can my Hindle Ti Can be jet coated?
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posted November 23, 2006 05:15 PM
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I've been running Thermotec on my SS Akrapovic (both of them) since day one.
Sounds like we have the same pipe, would 50' of the wrap be enough? How did you secure the it, hose clamps, wire?
Thanks,
50' feet would be more than enough. It will take right at 28 ft to wrap the headers just short of where they go into the collector to about 1" away from the head flanges.
Use the thinner wrap (like 1 3/8"), the 2" stuff if way too wide for the tight bends on a bike pipe.
Don't attempt to wrap the header assembled. You'll end up with a shitty job. Wrap each header pipe individually. Beware of overlap. Too much and you'll have hot spots and the header won't fit back together again.
ThermoTec makes fastening strips and fasteners called Snap Strips. They work well, look great and are as sharp as razer blades and will shred your hands if you are not very careful.
Voz - don't have any experience with Jet-Hot and Ti. If Jet-Hot has similar thermal properties as wrap, then I wouldn't do it.
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posted November 23, 2006 06:28 PM
A few shots of my wrapped yosh pipe...
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posted November 27, 2006 06:48 PM
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posted November 27, 2006 07:04 PM
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A few shots of my wrapped yosh pipe...
Nice wrap job....Easier to do OFF the bike huh....
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posted November 27, 2006 07:10 PM
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I'm going to keep the stock exhaust on my R1 and I'm going to have the header and mid-pipe (cat is in the mid-pipe) Jet-Hot coated in a titanium finish. I haven't used Jet-Hot but hear good things about it.
Jet hot is good stuff Blitz. I've been using Jet-Hot coat coating on car headers for a long time. You won't be sorry. 
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posted November 27, 2006 07:11 PM
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can my Hindle Ti Can be jet coated?
hello
Did you not like the reply above or ????
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posted November 28, 2006 05:30 AM
DAmn... Blitz I did not see that... My Bad...
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posted November 28, 2006 01:54 PM
I've always done it on the Bonneville bikes and street bikes, but wouldn't bother so much on a drag setup.
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posted November 28, 2006 02:48 PM
Yea you have to do it off the bike or you cant make it come out tight. Tightness is key. I use stainless safety wire to hold it in place.
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posted December 04, 2006 12:55 PM
jet coated inside & out does a fantastic job.......really great results
thermal wrapping stainless
is a really good approach
some have had dreadful results
wrapping titanium
titanium is usually a lot thinner than even alum
no less as a result they may Not be using the most durable alloy
wrapping Ti pipes usually results in them lookin like
pipe termites had a buffet
especially the headers
some have also noticed that some........some
carbon canisters cant take the addl heat
that is not lost thru radiant degradation
without the wrap
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posted December 04, 2006 01:11 PM
i've heard a few complaints with corrosion if the wraps get wet, are these materials shown here able tor esist that?
or are they coated/sealed in some way to prevent water migration between the pipe and the wrap?
  
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posted December 04, 2006 04:16 PM
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i've heard a few complaints with corrosion if the wraps get wet, are these materials shown here able tor esist that?
or are they coated/sealed in some way to prevent water migration between the pipe and the wrap?
I had 12K on my first Akrapovic Ti when I rewrapped it and the pipes looked great.
Sure, there was some minor staining on the areas that were covered, but nothing 10 minutes with a Scotch-Brite wouldn't take care of if you wanted them to look new again.
Definitely not "corrosion". Now on a cheaper pipe, I dunno... But a quality unit like the Akra, not an issue.
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posted December 04, 2006 04:30 PM
cool deal
probably more of a problem with steel or other materials less resistant to corrosion.
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posted December 04, 2006 05:27 PM
Slug, I live at the end of a 1/2 mile dirt road. Its very often wet and muddy when I take the bike out. So the wrap gets wet all the time. But remember that the exhaust heats up and it dries out 100% every time. I suppose when i return and it gets spalshed with mud puddle water and I park the bike it may take time to dry if the pipes cool before the moisture dries up. But in any case the pipe is fine.
The small stones from the front wheel have eroded away a bare spot down to the stainless pipe in the collector area. But its not a big deal.
Dirt roads suck, but its fun standing on the pegs and riding it like a CR-250.
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posted December 04, 2006 06:46 PM
Edited By: osti33 on 4 Dec 2006 18:52
Nevermind. I got it. 
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posted December 04, 2006 06:59 PM
hehehe i've led a few rides down a gravel access road that connects 360 with the cherohala on the indianboundary access road.
the last time i had a passenger, settled the bike down quite nicely.
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posted December 09, 2006 08:07 PM
Edited By: muleskinner on 9 Dec 2006 20:08
So what type of material is our stock header pipe made out of? I want to wrap the header down to the collector.
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posted December 09, 2006 10:25 PM
do not wrap the stock header......i did it and the damn thing rusted...corrosion would be a mild term...it rusted bad....
that was coz it had got wet....so don't do it.....
get a new pipe...akra...the best in stainless systems.....or like i did ...the arata.....of course you cannot wrap titanium........
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posted December 10, 2006 07:49 AM
nav did you ever complete your bung for the O2 sensor in the Ti pipe?
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