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posted September 08, 2006 09:47 AM
http://ticotitaniuminc.thomasnet.com/viewitems/fasteners/hex-nuts?&plpver=10&forward=1&backtoname=&pane=
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posted September 08, 2006 10:06 AM
well here are some interesting specs
http://wbo2.com/lsu/Y258K01005e03mar21eng.pdf#search=%22Bosch%205%20Wire%20LSU4%20WideBand%20Sensor%20specifications%22
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posted September 08, 2006 10:09 AM
i think on page 20 it states 18x .5mm?
which could be another problem
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posted September 08, 2006 10:24 AM
Just had an interesting conversation with a tech at Arata USA.
Seems that the U.S. is the only market where Arata's do NOT come with O2 bungs already installed.
All the Euro spec pipes come with the bung already installed.
Here in the U.S. we can order the mid-pipe from the factory with the O2 bung already installed for $100 more (total $380).
I wonder what might be available in the European market as the bung is already installed there? ......
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posted September 08, 2006 10:30 AM
damn the luck! I guess if it can happen it will happen. I wonder if they could do an exchange with a restock fee???? Or anything helpful!!!!
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posted September 08, 2006 11:41 AM
so bob will they exchange the standard system for the bung one.....
its M18X1.5
so what should be done now.....bob ask them if they can replace the mid pipe....coz buying one for 380$ would be too expensive.....
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posted September 08, 2006 12:07 PM
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so bob will they exchange the standard system for the bung one.....
its M18X1.5
so what should be done now.....bob ask them if they can replace the mid pipe....coz buying one for 380$ would be too expensive.....
I don't have to ask them bro, I can tell you the answer is no.
The pipe you bought on eBAY was via a 3rd party reseller. You got a great deal no doubt, but thats where it ends.
If I'd have known you wanted to add a bung and O2 sensor when you bought the Arata I would have steered (or at least warned you) away from a Ti pipe.
Titanium is great until you want to do anything with it (wrap it, weld, it, etc..) and then people run away when you mention it. 
It's NOT an easy metal to work with (like Stainless Steel).
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posted September 08, 2006 12:25 PM
 Edited By: Texas12R on 8 Sep 2006 13:38
I cant say for sure......I have used silica bronze to weld dissimilar metals...but again I would have to try it before I say " It will work." If you thought that you would consider this as an option you could utilize a fitting of any metal for the bung / pipe coupling
What I should have said was I would have to go to ft worth and snag a piece of Ti and try a joint with the Ti and SS with the silica bronzeand then I could say ...yes or no. I do know that I tried a joint with SS and Ti using CP Ti filler and it cracked in the center of the joint..no good
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posted September 08, 2006 12:26 PM
Edited By: navpreet318 on 8 Sep 2006 13:32
bob you've got mail.....
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posted September 08, 2006 12:42 PM
yup CP ti filler is whats recommended with Ti welding.....
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posted September 08, 2006 12:57 PM
Edited By: Texas12R on 8 Sep 2006 14:57
are the threads straight or tapered like pipe threads
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posted September 08, 2006 08:35 PM
they are tapered in the starting couple of threads...then on its straight....
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posted September 08, 2006 09:31 PM
a good wideband sensor should have more than 1 wire and hence be heated (and its temp controlled by the box)....so placement in the midpipe is a tad less critical than with a 1wire non heated narrowband sensor.
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posted September 09, 2006 06:26 AM
so texas12r....did you try to weld Ti and SS using silica bronze....
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posted September 09, 2006 10:07 AM
No nav, I havent . I will post the results as soon as I have a chance make a joint.
I work a rotating shift so my schedule is crazy. I dont think it will be a problem to use the silica bronze. I have used it for SS to brass, copper to mild steel, even to seal cracks in cast iron when the cast has been decarbed due to long exposure to high heat........
But until I actually make the bond I cant say absolutely that it will work.
It would be great to be able to use a SS bunge...much easier to source I would think.
......as soon as I know I will post.....
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posted September 09, 2006 10:55 AM
thanks mate.........
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