wylde
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posted June 03, 2006 08:56 AM
Lower Case Question??
Can a lower engine case be put on while the engine is still in the bike?? how hard is the job if not the case?? might have a crack or hole from bottoming out badly.. havent seen the bike as of yet though,, im hoping i just pinched a line or something.. thanx
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entropy
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posted June 03, 2006 01:27 PM
 Edited By: entropy on 3 Jun 2006 23:16
If yr lower case is fukkered you gotta drop the motor to get at the bolts which hold the cases together.
BUT, even if you could get the lower case off, the lower and upper halves are a matched set. Lower and upper cases are machined together to line bore the main bearing housings.
Pulling the motor is in yr future 
However, screwing the case (not just the oil pan) is kinda rare. I did it once, but haven't heard of anyone else.
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wylde
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posted June 03, 2006 03:19 PM
so you think it might have bottomed out,, and just trashed the pan,,( fingers crossed)??
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ninja12
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posted June 03, 2006 07:22 PM
yeap, another cracked pan.
seem several on lowered 12s.
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wylde
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posted June 04, 2006 09:50 AM
mine wasnt lowered at the time of the incident,, however,, i was bookin down a fairly steep hill,,that had quite a bump at the base of the hill,, that is when i felt it bottom hard and solid.
i hope its the pan..
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ZXLNT
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posted June 04, 2006 08:16 PM
More than likely it is. Be pretty hard to break an engine case...
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ninja12
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posted June 04, 2006 08:19 PM
i have seen them bottom out and spin the oil plug out.
no damage, just buy a new plug ang screw it in.
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wylde
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posted June 06, 2006 07:26 AM
would that be the shit,, i hope its something as simple as a plug. thanx guys
keepin my hopes alive,, just got it all setup the way i wanted,,(except the suspension)..
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posted June 06, 2006 08:53 AM
usuall when the bottom out it just brakes off the back end of the pan, I have seen quite a few of them cracked and 1-2 broken on the back end of the oil pan!
I hope that is what is wrong!!!
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posted June 06, 2006 02:59 PM
does the suspension not keep the bottom of the bike high enough when fully compressed?
sounds like there is need of some adjustment to prevent bottoming out...
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blitzkrieg
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posted June 06, 2006 03:06 PM
Anything that hits the bottom has got to go through the header and oil pan first.
I doubt very seriously your lower engine case is hurt.
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posted June 06, 2006 03:19 PM
Did I miss the part that describes what is happening to make him think that there is serious damage ?
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wylde
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posted June 07, 2006 09:41 AM
I dont know since the bike incident,, i havent seen the bike,, according to my brother who wheeled it a couple hundred yards to my buddys house,, the right pegs,,the cannister,,the pipe underneath is crushed,,thats why he said he didnt attempt to start it,, it just bottomed so hard,, i could feel it in my spine,, i was going about 40mph down a very steep hill and under hard braking,, i hit a pothole at the base of the hill,, that is when it bottomed,, i continued and a few seconds later,, it started squirming,, thought i was gonna lose it,, and then it seemed like i had it under control,, that is when i layed down causeing me to side swipe a parked car in a slight left turn,, think my toe almost got ripped off between the peg and or muzzy can,, dont remember what i hit,, but it caused number 1 and 4-9 ribs to break,, and a couple of other injuries,, ribs are the worst,,, once im able to get around a lil better,, i will go take inventory and relocated the bike,, and then i will be posting a wish list of parts,, and thats my story and im sticking to it..
PS Matt,, any time you look up after a spill and your bike is a half football field away,, you think that there is considerable damage,, although i have dropped bikes at a standstill and have done more damage then when moving in the past,, and like i said i am yet to see it,, so im expecting the worst and hoping for the best..
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posted June 07, 2006 10:22 AM
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PS Matt,, any time you look up after a spill and your bike is a half football field away,, you think that there is considerable damage,, although i have dropped bikes at a standstill and have done more damage then when moving in the past,, and like i said i am yet to see it,, so im expecting the worst and hoping for the best..
My apologies, but I didn't see any mention of this accident in your original post. Possibly somewhere else on the site, but I didn't see that either.
What caused the bike to get squirmy ? Was there oil leaking out of it after hitting the pot hole/bump ? Oil leaking out of it after it went down ?
I've done the whole half a football field deal. As long as no oil was leaking out, and no big holes in the important stuff, determine if it's ridable and crank it right up.
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posted June 07, 2006 12:35 PM
If i may GUESS what happeded:
When you bottomed out the plug came out or the pan cracked.
Oil spilled all over rear tire and caused the squirmy ride.
Witnessed the same thing at the track last year with a slammed gsxr1000.
Bike wheelied at the 60' came down hard, by the 330 he was fighting a loosing battle
to stay upright, Bike made it pass the 1/8 ride didn't.
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wylde
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posted June 07, 2006 02:26 PM
i posted the incident when i was contemplating the sale of the bike in the classifieds,,yes the squirmy was a result immediatly after the bottom out (knew immediatly it was coolant or oil),,a very hairy ride,, yes i should have puilled over immediatly after the bottom,,but instead i continued and as a result my ribs are paying the price,, i left a trail of what i believe to be oil for about a 1/8 of a mile according to my brother,, (not verified),,but i dont think there is a coolant line any where in the area of where it bottomed out,, as far as ridability,, he chose not to crank it as the exhaust was smashed shut,,and felt it could possibly do damage to the upper motor if he fired it.. i still have to inspect it,,move it,, and draw up a list of replacement parts.. no appoligies neccessary bro!
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posted June 07, 2006 02:59 PM
Your brother is doing the intelligent thing.
Not starting a motor until you now exactly what damage was done is the thing to do.
Lets say the oil pickup is damaged. It takes a very short period of time with zero oil pressure before you get to learn what fried main bearings look like and become familar with a company called A.P.E.. 
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