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posted October 20, 2005 06:57 AM
Nice going NOX...I too was wondering about your setup to get 124 in the 1/8th, but you still didnt say what fuel you were using...DETAILS, DETAILS, we need DETAILS... 
HDL...To get 124mph in the 1/8 the bike has to be putting out 175-180 HP @ the wheel, but you have to be able to get that power to the ground on the strip, takes a long time...
My 12 puts out about 175hp to the wheel, fastest I have been was:
60'.......1.512
330......3.964
1/8.......5.981 @ 122.69
1000....7.680
1/4........9.216 @ 152.37
That was with a 2002 ZX12, Akrapovic stainless pipe, 60" wheelbase, MR9 fuel, 17-47 gearing, Muzzy block off-kleen air system, BilletBasket, slammed, SuperCorsa sc2 rear tire, foot shifting, no PC, OEM air filter, OEM timing, motor never opened up...Temp @ the track was 55 degrees...
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posted October 20, 2005 07:41 AM
Thats cause you got z SKILLZ CR!!..
Proud of ya sir..
Hmmm.. wonder what you would run if ya had a pc to give ya a few more poines and a shifter?
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NOX
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posted October 20, 2005 02:36 PM
U4, Crankcase mod, Brocks Pipe, MCR2 tire, +4degrees on timing, stock basket, 2 inches of clearence with me in the saddle.motor never opened up, stock cams, stock cam timing, no pc, stock pistons, 2002 zx12, baffle in the pipe.
other than the rear tire, looked just like this
http://www.catalystracingcomposites.com/catalyst_racing_composites_013.htm
60'.....1.5672
330'...4.0292
660'...6.0575 @124.52mph
Short time is way slow, because I have a real soft clutch set up.
81 degrees, 41% humidity, 29.67 barometer, which is freakin low, 1884 DA corrected air, in a Tag Systems Weather Station, taken two minutes after the run, in Centerville, AR
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posted October 20, 2005 02:55 PM
thanks CR......I was curious about that....
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posted October 20, 2005 07:27 PM
Looking at the photo of your bike, you have a large rear sprocket. What is your gear ratio?
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fropappy
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posted October 20, 2005 07:44 PM
 Edited By: fropappy on 20 Oct 2005 20:46
There. Fixed for lazy people.
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NOX
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posted October 20, 2005 07:48 PM
That was a 52, it was uncontrolable like that, but all I had at the time. I had run it for top of 5th with a slick on my bar bike, ran 56 for top of 6th.
with street tire, the 52 put me out of gear, hit the limiter in 6th before the 1/4
I am running a 48 now.
Good eyes, still think my mph is bull(*&Y ?
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posted October 20, 2005 07:50 PM
Oh, thanks fropappy, I never could get that crap to work.
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fropappy
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posted October 20, 2005 08:04 PM
I don't own a bike anymore, but I do own a computer.
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posted October 20, 2005 08:33 PM
I never claimed your mph was bull...just the way you made the first post sound 
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NOX
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posted October 20, 2005 08:43 PM
kewl with me.
I am telling you guys, I was at the Nopi event, and there were a few busas, one with a tiny rider, running U4, I know, he was pitted next to me, with power commander, MSP pipe, lowered, all that, stock motor he claimed, and I walked away from him when we would run heads up in time trials. His bike should have pulled or stayed with me as small as he was with his mods......
This pipe is great, but I gotta get the PC. I will let you know the numbers the map makes when I do.
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posted October 20, 2005 09:18 PM
Nox, what clutch set up are you using???...Im using the OEM set up but removed the 2 sets of metal rings, small fibers and replaced it with all same size OEM fibers...
Why get a PC if your running 123-124 in the 1/8???
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posted October 20, 2005 09:39 PM
Muzzy lock up (my settings, not tellin)........still have the metal rings in......., I have thought of taking em out, but I need a fiber to replace em with. I race with a guy who may have one. Did it make it smoother? The rings are alot like the clutch mod brock uses in the busas and 1000s aint it?
And I want the PC so I can run maybe 125 or 126........duh!
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posted October 20, 2005 09:53 PM
Ohhhhhh, a lock up...That explains why your going 124 in the 1/8...You didnt list that in your mods!!!...I removed the rings and small fibers because the small fibers break...
Dont be surprised if after you get a PC your mph drops...Unless you Dyno tune the 12 yourself !!!
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posted October 20, 2005 10:04 PM
Edited By: NOX on 20 Oct 2005 23:07
The lockup does not change mph, I tested it with my Pro ET set up. I have tons of logs , and all it did was let me tune better. I was curious about that too. I looked at my setup logs, and weathers, it really did nothing except short time better, mph did not increase, at least with a Pro Et set up..........
I have only seen MPH go up with one of Brock's maps. I will be running his map in it till I build a bigger motor. I will post when i get it, may be a while though.
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posted October 20, 2005 10:11 PM
Edited By: NOX on 20 Oct 2005 23:14
and btw, all you guys tearing up clutch parts will not do that with a lock up, even launching off the two step at anywhere from 5500 to 7500, never broke anything,.......1.31 short times, 1.35 to 1.38 in the heat.
Even Pro Stock bike only runs one set of fibers a year. I have worked on the Matco Tools bike, and they dont eat em up like you would think. You will also learn a ton about your power delivery with the lock up........
and it is way easier on the drivetrain.
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posted October 20, 2005 10:23 PM
Hey Nox, you have a PM!!!
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posted October 20, 2005 10:30 PM
Ah, the ol, PM super secret lockup question I assume.........., this could cost ya.........
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posted October 20, 2005 10:36 PM
Reply sent.
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posted October 21, 2005 06:04 AM
DO TELL>>>DO TELL!!
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NOX
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posted October 21, 2005 06:52 AM
Edited By: NOX on 21 Oct 2005 08:01
Lock ups are trial and error........my tune up still has room, as you can see by the slow 330 time, my bike should be turning 5.90s in the 1/8 ........
What works in my bike may not work in yours, rider weight, hp, etc.........
The lock up has been on the bike, the pipe addition is when the bigger mph came.
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posted October 21, 2005 08:33 AM
Nox, another super secret PM for ya
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posted October 21, 2005 09:03 AM
hey..hey...tells us also!!
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NOX
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posted October 21, 2005 01:54 PM
You guys have to understand, what works for me, WILL NOT work in your bike.
Power delivery is diferent, my bike is very light for a 12, like 480 race ready, very minor things change it, so what I have will not work...........
It honest to god is trial and error............took me forever to get it down, but when you start going the right way with it, ets will drop fast due to the set up.........., a lock up should sound like a great clutch hand leaving the line.................
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posted October 22, 2005 06:08 AM
If you are doing good without a lockup, there is no need. I already had it in the bike with my pro et set up, so I just adjusted, but I was already in the ball park. Would be alot of work for your set ups.........
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