Ninjaman12R
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posted December 28, 2004 07:07 AM
Fookin' BULLshit.................
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My neighbor's association does not allow that, or anything like that. No RV's, boats, campers, any type of trailers, nothing for longer than 24 hours.
I couldn't imagine living with those types of restrictions. I totally understand why associations have those types of rules, but it AIN'T for me. I love living in the country and doing as I damned well please. Not that I'd want some big-assed race trailers parked out in the drive, but if the need arised there'd be no fuss.  In fact if I wanted to start collecting old U-Haul trailers for lawn decorations I'd 'spect those who didn't like it could take 4 ea. Extra Strength Capsules of "Go Fuck Yourself" and call me in the morning. 
Wonder if that snowman my son and I built this pass Sunday would violate any of yer association's rules Otis???
Seriously Sherm, good luck with all this. I hate to see a working man get hassled over stupid crap like this. The old dude is just bein' a dick IMHO. If I am fortunate enough to grow old, I hope and pray that I don't become a old bitter bastard.
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posted December 28, 2004 08:50 AM
I'm not clear on what a "neighbours association" is? DO you guys have monthly maintenance fees? Are you talking about a "gated community"? (Pardon my ignorance about this)... Where I live I'm not talking about a "neighbourhood association" ... I'm talking about City Hall. They make and enforce the rules... is there anoth governing body other than City Hall? Is this a "farm thing" or just an "Arkansas thing" ? Some please 'splain .
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posted December 28, 2004 11:18 AM
I couldn't see where or if this was suggested but had you thought about going to his house and asking his permission or discussing the situation with him? Basically old dudes just want to feel like they are impacting something, cuz well, they aren't anymore. Go and give the guy 30 minutes to tell you his war story and make a new friend.
Personally I don't think I could follow this advice but it doesn't mean it won't work if you do. Then you can keep all the lawyers favored up for when you do something really stupid.
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posted December 28, 2004 11:39 AM
fish: in some areas the 'homeowners" (or the devlpoment company that built the 'community") will form a group that makes up rules for living in that community.
they ahve no legal standing whtsoever, except that when you move in totheirlittle part of the world you signed a 'contract' or whatnot which DOES have legal standing.
they basically attempt to force their ideal of what a neighborhood shouldl ooklike on other people living in that neighborhood.
if youhappen to agree with that group you're golden
step onthe opposite side of the line, and wwatch out your life becomes miserable.
(like putting a window AC unit on the garage.. that's a no-no in some places....
  
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Otis
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posted December 28, 2004 12:53 PM
Shit Rick, that sad snowman you built wouldn't pass the association, hell no. LMAO
Fish, we have a Neighborhood Association, it's actaully called Village Oaks Community Association (VOCA) There is a set of bylaws that you must follow if you want to live in the neighborhood. There is a fee of $195 a year to own a home here. The money goes towards the clubhouse that I can reserve for parties and whatnot and also for the pool and lifeguards. We have an olympic size swimming pool that any homeowner and family can use. There is a board that manages the association too, I actually am going to try to get on it next year. I don't have any problems with the rules, if I did, I wouldn't have bought the house. It depends on what kind of neighborhood and neighbors you want to live in/by. There are also no fences allowed anywhere, except decorative like my split rail fences. I think this is great cause I hate neighborhoods that all the yards are separated by chain link fence, looks like shit as far as I'm concerned. While of course I am a huge fan of property rights, I am also a fan of "If you don't like the rules, go somewhere else" pretty simple if you ask me. Personally, I wouldn't want Red's trailer right next to my house (unless he let me take the race bikes for a spin now and again, LOL), but if I lived in his neighborhood and there was no law against it, I wouldn't say a thing, not my business so I have no right to.
And slug, in fact, at least in my state, there are agreements with the city gov'ts to uphold association bylaws. If for example, I don't pay the $195 for the yearly fee, they give me a ton of time to pay it, at least 1 year, but after that, the city can collect it for them. If I had a trailer like Red's in my driveway and didn't remove it after a period of notice with the association, the city, at the association's request, could come and tow it. Shit in some town's here in Michigan there have been state lawsuits about this stuff when someone breaks association laws.
Bottom line, read any associations bylaws BEFORE you purchase your home and if you agree that is the type of neighborhood you want to live in, then buy there, if not, no skin off of anyone's back, just find a neighborhood with no rules.
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posted December 28, 2004 01:44 PM
Do you have to pay extra for the crazy folks to peek in windows up dar in Yankeeland, Otis?
I'm heading out to the country. While I do appreciate zoning for city planning and some sort nieghborhood covenants, this is tiring.
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posted December 28, 2004 02:40 PM
 Edited By: vincentHill on 28 Dec 2004 14:46
Like I said, we all want to live in a "Good" neighborhood but who makes the rules is even more important. I could not live where my Super lives because they even have the say so on the Color and how high the screen part of your door is. And to not allow a pick up truck!! That is why where ever I live or move to, I check the Rules first and when I see someone trying to start some rules, I am first and last at the meetings and state well we should not allow out door BBQ because I do not like the smell or eat meat. No visitors to park up the streets and so on until nothing gets voted on and then I can go home. I did allow the stop sign to "Help" slow the people down!
I forgot to mention that being close to a commercial area (to me) is better than some of the residential areas. No one after 6 PM is around and 9 pm the latest. Residential they are always around. I cannot wait to move to Florida and have a green stone or Green sand front yard and cut no grass. A 3 car garage and a pool in the middle of the house and a lake behind it and not too close to anyone else either!
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posted December 28, 2004 03:44 PM
Edited By: redelk on 28 Dec 2004 15:45
Spoke with the city's Zoning Administrator yeasterday. The case is not over yet. More to come with many twists and turns as the plot thickens in a new thread: City of Little Rock v. Redelk
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posted December 29, 2004 03:20 AM
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Spoke with the city's Zoning Administrator yeasterday. The case is not over yet. More to come with many twists and turns as the plot thickens in a new thread: City of Little Rock v. Redelk
WHOA!!!!!
a two line RE post??? no way!
what happened?? You hit enter too fast??? 
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posted December 29, 2004 03:26 AM
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My neighbor's association does not allow that, or anything like that. No RV's, boats, campers, any type of trailers, nothing for longer than 24 hours.
yep, me too 
this has prevented me from buying an enclosed trailer; my lil open trailer has to be put in the garage, out of sight, when not in use.
no ole washing machines, "project cars" on blocks, or chained pit bulls on the front lawn either. WTF, THIS IS TEXAS fer god's sake!
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vincentHill
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posted December 29, 2004 08:38 AM
It looks like the real problem is out of sight out of mind. Is there enough space "ON YOUR PROPERTY" between the houses for you to slide the trailer behind the house line so that everyone line of sight is not affected?
Red, the reason I think there is so much interest here is we are all affected by this in one way or the other and when you have a vested interest, you are truly interested!
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posted December 29, 2004 09:14 AM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 29 Dec 2004 09:18
Thanks for clearing that up for me Otis and Slug... I suppose we prolly have that here too... it usually only applies to condos and townhomes here.. called a "strata" commitee... although I do know that the developer who built the area PK's parents live in placed covenants on the land like you are speaking of.. no chain link etc, and only 1 tree in the front yard in a specific spot etc.
Where I live it's all governed by city hall.. no owners assc.... And I agree that I wouldnt want the trailer there either... I cover my small bike trailer with a tarp and it still looks pretty bad cuz no one else has anything like that...
but if ya wanna talk covenants... you should see the original restrictions by the developer for my area from decades and decades ago.. my eyes almost fell out of my head when I read them... the realtor wouldnt tell me what they were, and neither would the city or the province (state) so I had to go down in person and request a copy of the title certificate... they had crossed out the sections, so none of them apply any more (obviously), but the main one states that the property shall not be occupied or owned by "any negro, oriental or member of the jewish faith"!
Top that restriction! Needless to say that today my neighbour on one side is a jew and the couple on the right are oriental gotta love it! ...I bet the developer is rolling in his grave right about now! Sorry Vince but "your people" havent moved in here yet ... anyways, See redelk.... if you put it in perspective that rule about your trailer is small beans in the grand scheme of things..
I'll try to dig a up a copy of my deed and post it.. it's unbelievable.
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eddyo
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posted December 29, 2004 09:30 AM
I'm lucky, I guess, to live in a small community with 2047 other low life white trash dickie wearing toothless mostly unemployed inbred stealin over flowin septic tank backyard junk pu trucks collectin good ole fashin American's. My neighbors wouldn't care if you shat on ur front porch.
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vincentHill
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posted December 29, 2004 10:36 AM
Fish, I was surprized to find that a Black man was with Byrd on his first trip to the North Pole. When I went to work for DeVilbiss the Owner of the company had the same thing in his will but when they went to get some government contracts, they had to hire "A Good" and that is how I got the Job there! (If any one does not know what "A Good" is, "it is part of the statement that the employers made as to why there were no Black working for their company. "If we could find a good[/]u Black person to work for us, we would hire them" so any time a black person started to work for an all white company, we became "A GOOD"!
The document brings up another interesting question. How did the relationship between the Blacks and Jews go down hill. After all, there were many Jews that "Died" during the first days and years of the Civil Rights movement here in the USA and if there was a company that had a Jew as a President, everyone knew that a Black person could get as high as Vice President, not to mention that Jews would loan money to Blacks when no one else would.??
Neat stuff Fish! I did not know that "it" went on in Canada also because one of the ends of the Under Ground railroad (A loose group of people that took slaves out of the South and moved them North to get away from Slavery) was in Canada
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posted December 29, 2004 10:48 AM
Ain't that GOOD! New one on me and as a avowed racist I thought I knew them all.
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posted December 29, 2004 10:50 AM
no one was as surprised as we were! Needless to say it became painfully obvious why neither the realtor nor the city or state wanted to tell us about the covenant .. friggin wild find that... our eyes almost fell out of our heads..
anyways.. my jew and oriental neighbours had best keep their yarsds uncluttered and trailerless cuz I know they're here illegally ...
can you imagine going down to City hall and filing that complaint?
I wonder how that "went down"... would be interesting to be a fly on the wall fer that.
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eddyo
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posted December 29, 2004 11:43 AM
Same deal here in Jersey . Wife & I looked at some property couple years ago & just happened to see the deed. It plainly stated that the property could not be sold to negro's. Geez, with all the science today I bet most of us would be surprised to know our bloodlines.
Too bad your not a minority Redelk.
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posted December 29, 2004 11:44 AM
fish, my sister's place has the same covenant. amazing thing is it wasnt crossed out or anything. looks like technically it is still in place! tho of course its completely ignored and illegal anyway. other amazing thing is it's not from that long ago, put in during the 50s if i'm not mistaken. as to wasnting to know how it got in in the first place, i'd say sis' neighbours could tell u that. having a bit of a feud over the fence & property line and they'v muttered "damn immigrants" to my mother once or twice! oh, and they've prolly lived there since the 50s.
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posted December 29, 2004 12:38 PM
ahh... the friggin germans! ... even worse
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posted December 29, 2004 01:25 PM
Edited By: vincentHill on 29 Dec 2004 13:27
I am blown away! Here I thought the Canadians were waay better off in this department and this is the first I have ever heard about anything like this in Canada.
The scary thing to me is a lot of Black people I know including me always had this one thought in our minds, "If it ever gets too bad in the states, we can ALWAYS Move to Canada!
Boy (No racist remark meant) were we wrong
The Good news is, in spite of your findings, The only fights we ever hear about are between the French (Yes they will fight over language) and everyone else in Canada that does not speak French!
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eddyo
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posted December 29, 2004 02:11 PM
Vincent...The REAL Canadians live in Quebec!
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posted December 29, 2004 02:56 PM
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It looks like the real problem is out of sight out of mind. Is there enough space "ON YOUR PROPERTY" between the houses for you to slide the trailer behind the house line so that everyone line of sight is not affected.
A couple small problems with that, Vince. First, I can not get the trailer into my backyard. Each side property line of my lot is 8' from my house. My neighbors on both sides have fenced in back yards that run right on this property line. The trailer is 8.5' wide and I could not even park it next to the side of the house due to the very large and old trees there. Second, even if their yards did not have fences, my backyard has a more than one elevation change to it. It would be almost impossible to even back it in. Even if we were to get in back there, one end of the trailer could easily be SIX FEET higher than the other end.
In any case, it's too late for such. The notice has been served and even relocating it elsewhere on the property would still be a violation. Anyway, locating one or both of the trailers in my backyard would actually be a more severe violation than having them in my driveway.
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VincentHill
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posted December 29, 2004 05:26 PM
WOW Red! That depletes every though I had. I was not so much about putting them in the back yard as I was to making a concrete slab along side the house and parking the trailer right on the side of the house. It would remove the blocking of the View up and down the street and it would make the front end the only visible part to people driving by. Oh for the lack of 1 foot. I understand what you are saying about too late, but my feeling was in court showing them a picture of a house with a large black box on the right or left would create less of a visible object to fight against! All of the best to you and your fight! I have learned more on this thread than I knew existed. That deal in Canada really knocked the wind out of my sails and everyone I have told about it. We were all dumb together in our ignorance.
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posted December 29, 2004 06:02 PM
Vincent... I think you'll find that Canada is a pretty tolerant place... you can still "escape here" if need be
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posted December 30, 2004 08:13 AM
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Vincent... I think you'll find that Canada is a pretty tolerant place... you can still "escape here" if need be
I will just have to avoid the "French" and deal with the Horrible service and the Restaurants. As you can see, I have been there (Several times the last one to Uxbridge to Hindle's House and his shop in Toronto.
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