redelk
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posted February 06, 2002 07:49 AM
I HATE SNOW!
We got 4" last night. It might not seem like much, but for a state that has a TOTAL of 7 salt/sand spreading trucks (4 of which actually have a snow plow blade on front), it pretty well "paralyzes" the state. The funny part is that the majority of roads are now just wet slush.
It's almost 10 am and I the only at work. Th phone hasn't rung once in over 2 hours. Tonight might be a different story. All the wet slush will likely refreeze into solid sheets of ice. It ought to make tomorrow morning a tad more interesting. Still, by tomorrow afternoon, it will warm up to around 50° and Friday will be even warmer/
The not so funny part is that it will get up to 60° this weekend. What could be "bad" about that? Even with the few spreader trucks we have, every twisty back highway will be covered with sand until we get at least two or three days of good rain to wash it off. Nothing but cloudless sunshine is predicted.
Coming around a blind corner and seeing a wet spot or gravel is bad enough, but to have huge patches of sand in the middle of an apex is about the worst I can imagine. The only thing worse is imagining myself in a short sleeve t-shirt (don't go there!), working on my bike and looking out my garage at what would have been a beautiful riding day! Saturday AND Sunday.
Last year's ice storms were real bad, but it took almost a month to get all the sand off the roads and SIX MONTHS to get all the the trees and tree limbs cleared away. It was always "exciting" to come around a corner a see a 4"~6" tree limb laying across the road.
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tactical2
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posted February 06, 2002 03:43 PM
I Feel Your Pain......
Snow bites the proverbial ass.....
Only 60-some odd days left before "rideable" weather.....
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TripodMeat
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posted February 06, 2002 05:43 PM
Rideable weather???? True, the 50 or so it was at
5 a.m. was a "tad" brisk.....but the 80-83 for the weekend will be just about right 
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tactical2
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posted February 06, 2002 05:49 PM
It Was -29 C last night.....damn!
I am slowly counting the days until I will see dry roads. They are forcasting a high of 28F for the weekend..YIPPEE!!! Great (scarcasm).....
What does it take to become a US citizen in Hawaii??? Bribery? Lemme know, OK ??
Chris
Barrie, Ontario, CAN
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TedG
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posted February 06, 2002 09:15 PM
Red, now you know why I buy 4x4s. I get the luxury versions and smile at the funky roads. But I was a motorcycle mechanic for over 10 years and I take snow and cold weather as a personal insult.
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kcadby
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posted February 06, 2002 10:09 PM
I haven't seen snow since I was on a mountain in '87' 
And before that??? What year was that one day it snowed for like 20 minutes in south Fl?!?!?!
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ROCKET J
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posted February 07, 2002 01:24 AM
Ah, quit your whining. Spoon on some knobbies (hmmm... 200/50x17, now I would like to see that) and have at it. A two stroke doesn't have anything on a 12's powerband! Maybe a radiator full of snow will finally keep the damn thing cool.
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Scooter
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posted February 07, 2002 04:12 AM
WAAA!!! sniveling babies. I saw a HD Fat Boy out on the way to work last night(no way I'm getting salt on my bikes though, no way). Red, you have more snow than I do right now. Send it up here, I'll gladly take it. Now you know what it's like here for 5 - 6 months.
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Koz
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posted February 07, 2002 08:00 AM
Sorry Redelk but I'd like to see at least a foot of snow. For 20 years I've cursed while shoveling snow, and promised myself I'd get a snow blower. Well I finally broke down and bought one this year and fuck, LA and Texas got snow, I didn't get shit. It will probably never snow here again! Some kids never grow up, toys!!!
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posted February 07, 2002 11:21 AM
Red, I know what you are talking about
about 1988 I drove to Little Rock from St. Louis to pick up my aunt. I was about to the border when we got to a huge snow storm. We could hardly see and I know it was comming down about 2 inches an hour. Traffic was a mess and the only thing the Arkansas road crews had to work with were road graders, I was shocked. The roads were dangerous and packed with snow and ice. That was a long slow trip we could not go over 40 MPH on the HWY. I did see a guy on a BMW motorcycle fly by us on the highway, he passed on the shoulder, about 5 miles up we saw that he had wiped out and slid across the median into oncomming traffic, I do not know how bad he was hurt but he was a total dipshit!
So far this year I have only had to scrape my windows 2 times in the morning ( Divorce = no more garage) and we have had only 2" of snow and that is pushing it.
come on spring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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redelk
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posted February 07, 2002 12:33 PM
It's not really the snow I hate....
It's how our state highway crews react to it. Since we rarely see snow of any significant amount, the state doesn't have much in the way of equipment to deal with it. Our winter problem has always been sleet and ice. Like I said last year during our ice storms, I'd gladly trade 1" of ice for a foot of snow.
Still, in either case, road crews will spread hundreds of tons of sand and almost every highway in the state. Unlike salt, sand won't rust away a car's body panels, but it also won't go away when everything melts. It has a nasty habit of sticking around for weeks after everything melts. No one seems to concerned about it, since within a few days of everything melting away, the passing cars will push the sand out of their tracks.
What this does is create five distinct "lines of sand" on a two lane road. There will be sand near each shoulder, the will be sand covering the road's center line (often so deep that you can't even see the stripe) and two 18"~24" wide swatches... right in the middle of EACH LANE. The amount of traffic on the road has no effect on when the sand will finally go away. If anything, the more traffic a road will have, the deeper the "lines of sand" will be.
There is only thing that get rid of the sand... RAIN and lots of it. I'm talking about INCHES of rainfall. It works out to about 1" of rain for each day there is snow on the road. If it rains less the an 1", the depth of the sand will be reduced, but it just spreads further up and down the highway. If there is a series of days of short or light rain showers, it will spread the sand to an almost invisible depth, but it's still present. It's also even more dangerous then when it was deep and visible.
Since sand is the "weapon of choice" for our highway crews, there isn't a whole lot that can be done about it. The "cruiser" guys don't seem to mind it too much, but the don't come anywhere close to the speeds or the amount of the lane usage of a sportbike rider. So, this weekend while all the Harley riders and "I only ride around in town" posers go by my garage, I'll just close the garage door and continue tinkering and cleaning my bike.
I HATE SNOW!
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posted February 07, 2002 02:32 PM
I redelk I know exctly what you are talking about. I used to live in Portland, OR and the State spreads pea gravel on the roads during the winter. Now I live near Slat Lake City can you guess what they use here for snow days? Ya guessed it Salt. The major down side to that is during the winter the bike must be cleaned every time that I go ride. Even a small pudle will have Salt in it. Which is worse? I don't have an opinion on which I would rather have, Sand/Gravel or Slat they both have there faults and advantages. Hell I should just move to a place where there are nothing but windy roads and mild temperatures all year.
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posted February 07, 2002 02:54 PM
quote:
I am slowly counting the days until I will see dry roads. They are forcasting a high of 28F for the weekend..YIPPEE!!! Great (scarcasm).....
What does it take to become a US citizen in Hawaii??? Bribery? Lemme know, OK ??
Chris
Barrie, Ontario, CAN
You'd want SoCal instead...great riding weather 10 out of 12 months...more twisties, more distance...a mecca for sportbikes and what the bikes were designed to do on the road...racetracks, too, (more of both if you include CentralCoast and NorCal)...having a 12R or any sportbike in Hawaii would be cool, too, but you'd be a hi-powered gerbil going round and round in a small cage...and its too crowded to...uh...'enjoy' the ride...believe me, I know,...I lived there more years than the typical serviceman's tour...I still call it home, tho'!
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TedG
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posted February 07, 2002 02:54 PM
Red, ditto in Nevada. There are huge mounds of sand everywhere.
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22348bCVC
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posted February 07, 2002 03:04 PM
quote:
I redelk I know exctly what you are talking about. I used to live in Portland, OR and the State spreads pea gravel on the roads during the winter. Now I live near Slat Lake City can you guess what they use here for snow days? Ya guessed it Salt. The major down side to that is during the winter the bike must be cleaned every time that I go ride. Even a small pudle will have Salt in it. Which is worse? I don't have an opinion on which I would rather have, Sand/Gravel or Slat they both have there faults and advantages. Hell I should just move to a place where there are nothing but windy roads and mild temperatures all year.
...someplace like SoCal...specifically San Diego County...its a very, VERY good thing to be a sportbike rider in San Diego County...I can hardly imagine the winter frustration you northerners, northeasterners, and midwesters must endure...or the straight, flat roads you southeasterners have (great for drags and top-end speed I bet)...SoCal rocks....sometimes literally!
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ZX12Girl
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posted February 07, 2002 03:32 PM
Wa, Wa, Wa!!!!
I feel your pain but I am not having much pity for 4 little inches!!!!!
Sorry Red 
I'll take your 4" and up ya by 6"!!! 
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redelk
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posted February 07, 2002 03:59 PM
 Edited By: redelk on 7 Feb 2002 16:00
Okay ZX12Girl... I'll up your 6
(I hate it when her's is "bigger" then mine)...
and I'll up it TWO beautiful riding days and make sure your bikes NEVER leave the garage! WAIT! I'll also throw in that you and kzz1 will have to stand in your garage (okay, you can take turns sitting in a lawn chair) and watch the Harleys and posers go by in blue jeans and t-shirts! BOTH DAYS!
HA! TOP THAT!
At least when you "suffer", so does everyone else around you. Being one of the few riders down here that does any kind of "distance" riding... I suffer alone. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
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Ozzy
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posted February 07, 2002 06:33 PM
I know all about the sand. here in Eastern Washington State they sand the heck out of the roads for 5 months, and spray the roads with magnesium chloride for 6-7 months. That shit is slick on otherwise bare pavement on a motorcycle. Another problem with the mg/cl is that you can't tell is if the "wet" on the road is water or not.
All in all, winter just plain sucks! Ozzy.
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psycho1122
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posted February 09, 2002 10:08 AM
ARIZONA!!
We never have winter, Nothing like being able to ride 365!!
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frEEk
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posted February 09, 2002 10:49 PM
dont like snow eh? prolly wouldnt want to move up to my town then
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posted January 26, 2007 09:58 AM
I looked at the thermomometer this morning and it was below 40. Immediately I thought "those poor bastards up north must be near zero". The equivelent of motorcycle hell. So how's it hanging up there? seen any dogs frozen to a fire hydrant?
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posted January 26, 2007 05:01 PM
That's me, Zack & Chad enjoying the snow yesterday in the Rockies. We spend good $$$ just to enjoy the stuff.
I LOVE SNOW!!!
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posted January 26, 2007 05:38 PM
Frozen water belongs in my Marqarita
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posted January 26, 2007 10:13 PM
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That's me, Zack & Chad enjoying the snow yesterday in the Rockies. We spend good $$$ just to enjoy the stuff.
I LOVE SNOW!!!
Dan
I love snowmobiling, that looks like rental units (same color sleds and helmets) and a track, where is that place?
The best two places I've rented were http://www.danielssummit.com/ and http://www.twotopsnowmobile.com/ .
I highly recommend both have unguided rentals (yes you can kill yourself!) next to several hundred miles of trails. Daniels is the best i've seen, the trails take you up to 13,000' with multi-state views of Utah, Wyoming, Colorado.
I'm always looking for new places to rent sleds, preferable near ski resorts. thanks in advance
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posted January 27, 2007 05:28 AM
Looks like a blast Dan!!!! hope you guys have a great time!!!
http://www.danielssummit.com
http://www.twotopsnowmobile.com
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