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posted October 20, 2004 01:02 PM
"Either" Way, we will see what we will see. What bothers me more than "Who" is elected it is "How" they are elected? People throwing Voter Registration Cards. The head of the Board of elections in Ohio ruling that the Absentee Ballads would not count if they did not live in the same District. When that was overulled, then stating that if their Taxes were delinquent that they could not vote. A City in Florida than had 1 place to vote early, the Machine did not work! I do not think that this country could stand for another "Court Appointed" President (Even if it was Kerry!) Have we become worse than a "Third World Country" where we must have the UN and outside countries come in to watch the election?? Have we come to that??
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posted October 20, 2004 01:41 PM
Kerry's latest rumour has him apointing miss Hillary to the Supream Court ASAP. That should pretty much do us all in.
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posted October 20, 2004 01:49 PM
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Kerry's latest rumour has him apointing miss Hillary to the Supream Court ASAP. That should pretty much do us all in.
I do not even think that Bush would believe that! After all, she "Wants to be President"! why settle for one of the Justices when you can be God!
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posted October 20, 2004 01:57 PM
I said rumour ,but I heard it on talk radio. I'm thinkin' she WOULD be god. Judges have more POWER than any mear mortal President.
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posted October 20, 2004 04:59 PM
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posted October 23, 2004 07:36 PM
Just so we keep all of the "Trash" in one place, I just saw on the News tonight where "Someone ('s)" went to a person's home where they had a John Kerry sign in the Front Yard and stole the Sign and replaced it with a Bush Sign! The Problem was that they did not stop there, they "Trashed" the entire house inside! Please tell me that someone has heard about someone with a Bush Sign having the same thing or worse (The Killed or beat of up the Home Owners.) The thing that scares me about some Bush Supporters are a lot of them are also Right to Life Supporters that we have all seen where they have web sites with the Doctors that work in the Clinics and the information on the CLinics and Blow up the Clinics and Kill the Doctors?? (The thing that get me is they call themselves "Right to Life"
SHort story, Our Office at Christmas time was going to a Company Lunch at the National Press Building. It was seriously COld (About 15 degrees). As we walked down the street past the "Usual" Homeless Beggars, I came across a woman sitting on the ledge on the side of the Building (Maybe 30 years Old) with TWO Young kids with her (About 2 and maybe 5 years Old) I really felt bad for her until the lady talking to her got her to open her coat where she had a New Born Baby maybe 2 or 3 months Old. This just made me Sick and I could not enjoy the Breat lunch we had.
As soon at I got back to the Building, I called several "Right to Life" Offices and said to them, "The Rap on the Right to Life is that they do not care about anyone once they are "BORN. Here is your chance to disprove this." I then told them about the Woman (Also I added that she was White so that they would know that she was one of theirs! "I have never seen a Black Right to Life Organization". The Three places I called (Every Last one of them) all told me what Government Agency I could call or some Church or place for the Homeless. I had enough of them and called Channel 4 News (NBC). They sent a van there to to cover this and take her to a SHelter. About 2 hours later, the station called and gave me the story.
Her Husband had lost his job because the Car had broken down so many times and caused him to be late to work. A Good Person came by (I cannot spell Samaratian?) and saw what was going on and picked the lady up and her childern, found the Husband, put them in one of the Town Houses he owned on Capitol Hill and Gave the Husband a Job Helping Renovate the Other Houses he owned. I do not Curse Much, but it is just this type of thing along with the Killing of Innocent People (Near or working in the clinics) that make me against the RTL People and the Organizations. That is why I say "F" Them and their Holier than Thou attitude. Just like the Crusades in Europe where If you did not believe in their God, they would Kill you!
Seeing the News tonight and seeing how one sided the Fanatics are Brought back the feelings of how I felt on that Christmas Eve and dealing with the RTL. This is something that happened 13 years ago, but it still affects my life today. No Human should have to see another Human suffer, but to see a Mother of 3 and one being only a few months Old (Now these Childern are what I call truly Innocent) suffer like that is Life changing!
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posted October 24, 2004 07:44 AM
 Edited By: slug on 24 Oct 2004 08:50
so much for freedom of the press.....
and amazingly it wasn't the hated evil republican party that did it...
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005797
vincent: your comment about the sign being stolen and house being trashed fails to acknowledge the other side of the issue, the SAME things are happening to RNC supporters as well...locally we had someone shoot up the local campaign headquarters a few weeks back. thank God noone was inside when the idiots shot into the building.....
the other one, go ahead and bash my and others' beliefs on life and abortion, but realize that your myopic view of it, in only seeing the negative people as representing ALL of us that believe that, is shameful and ignorant. and that's really all i will say on this topic, because there's no reasoning with someone who refuses to take individuals as such, and instead will only lump the whole group together as one. but that's a common failing in socialists, the group is all important, and individuals are worthless.
i could adopt 50 kids that were saved from being murdered before being born, but in your eyes i'd be the same as the hypocrites that bomb abortion clinics. because i am part of that extremist right-wing anti-freedom group..... and therefore not worthy of anything resembling respect....
Just like motorcycling, if you cannot afford the gear or to have insurance, you cannot afford to ride a bike.
If you cannot afford to raise a child, you cannot afford to screw....it's easy...or buy a freekin condom.....double bag it if you're paranoid...but for crying out loud DON'T GET PREGNANT (acknowledging rape cases as an exception of course)
   
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posted October 24, 2004 08:48 AM
Kerry and all that he stands for still (and always will) suck on so many levels. Its becoming gross. I can't believe more libs don't see through all of the lies.
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posted October 24, 2004 01:03 PM
Slug, you almost had it! People that bleieve like you and a lot of others should do more than give "Lip" Service. How many Clinics or homes for Un wed Mothers do the RTL Run? If they were paying to keep the people once they were here, then they are putting their money where their mouth is. That is what I am saying. Personally and for Religious reasona I am not for Abortion. I also lived in the 50's and 60's and saw what the women went through to have one. Believe me, nowadays is a lot better! What you and I also have seen are leaders in the RTL Movement that have been caught with their pants down paying for abortions and having them. This is just not something the Government should be involved in. (Either way)
What I was also asking for was what you said happened to Republican headquarters somewhere. Can you point to a spot where I can see just one? Also Maybe it is just the press, but I have not heard of Republican voter Registration being Trashed?
All I am looking for is equal DIrty works on both sides! Not one RTL Headquarters has even been Bombed or one leader Killed! Show me?
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posted October 24, 2004 01:39 PM
Edited By: deathpulse on 24 Oct 2004 18:40
Here ya go Vincent (just a few - there have been LOTS of trashings of Republican HQ's):
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002059735_webbushoffice11.html
http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20041005-024050-1855r.htm
Kinda getting sick.
http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/articles/2004/04/04/news/news2.txt
SORRY! I messed the link up on the first one. Should be OK now . Interesting with the "shots fired" story, eh? And here I thought the libs were anti-gun and all!
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posted October 24, 2004 01:41 PM
http://www.wbir.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=20241
bearden district of knoxville, tn
http://www.local6.com/politics/3785861/detail.html
Orlando, FL
Tampa:
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The Tampa Tribune ^ | October 6, 2004 | Ellen Gedalius/William March
Labor Activists Invade Bush's Campaign Sites By ELLEN GEDALIUS and WILLIAM MARCH The Tampa Tribune Published: Oct 6, 2004 TAMPA - Labor activists stormed President Bush's campaign headquarters in Tampa on Tuesday, part of an orchestrated event nationwide involving thousands of people protesting his policies on overtime pay. No one was injured or arrested in Tampa, police said. Miami and Orlando also were among the 17 cities in swing- voting states where the AFL-CIO organized such events.
(unable to link since it is pay feature after 3 days)
http://www.wataugadems.com/vandal.html
like i said it is happening to everyone, but YOU only report the side you care about....
if you search for "+campaign +headquarters +vandal" you will come up with a whole page of republican campaign HQs that got ransacked. add +democrat and you get anotherlist of DNC party HQs that were similarly damaged
but as usual, it is only RNC in your eyes that are goons, that are hateful, that are destructive, that are ignorant, and deceitful.
as far as the RTL issue, whatever...JUST BECAUSE i beleive in the right to life does NOT mean that i am part of that group that destroys things and makes idiots out of themselves.
to lump everyone in to that group is prejudicial and ignorant.
nor do i know of any anti-abortion people being vandalized or injured, but of course that doesn't mean it has never happened. NOR does it make it right for you to condemn all people who believe such.
i agree the government should have NOTHING to do with it, and frankly i feel that ZERO government money should go to or against abortion, or the planned abortionhood clinics...i mean planned parenthood....
i DO feel that abortion IS murder, but unfortunately the law of hte land does not agree, unless it is politically expediant to do so (Scot Petersen trial anyone?)
but you can say whatever you want, that's fine. just realize that you are painting with a VERY wide brush, and are on the SAME standing as someone that is a racist, or hates all gay people, or is anti-semitic, or hates all Christians, or whatever other group they fancy to hate.
to condemn a viewpoint or a person because of the actions of someone else totally unrelated, just on surface, is IMHO stupid. it is my opinion that saying all RTLs are like the murderers and the bombers is stupid. but that's just my opinion.
how would you like it if someone made the statement that all black people are thieves and should be in jail? just on the basis of one or two bad apples?
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posted October 24, 2004 04:44 PM
said it before I will say it again...."FLUSH THE JOHNS"......that is my only political view...... 
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posted October 24, 2004 07:24 PM
ROFL. Just make sure that everyone that likes Bush VOTES .
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posted October 25, 2004 07:17 AM
Thank you Slug! "I Mean this" In our area, this is the first of any of this we have seen and knew nothing of other area except the problems in Ohio. Stupidity is an Equal Party Employer and Actually I feel better about what happened here because it is happening on both sides (Now I am Equally disgusted!
On the RTL, Actually people do say that all Black people are Rapist and Thieves and Killers. Why do you think we get treated differently when the Police stop us?
For the last time, "NO" I do not think all RTL are out to Kill anyone that does not agree with them or does something they do not like. All I asked about is "WHERE" are the RTL Homes for un-wed mothers? The Orpahnages to take care of unwanted children, these thype of things?
I feel that maybe 90+% of the RTL are very peaceful people, but 5 to 10% are a lot of people stopping others from doing what they have a right to do! Remember, If you are a Christian, God will Judge and do the Punishment, not MAN! Thanks for your time to give me the Links! Ugly is just Ugly!
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posted October 25, 2004 02:46 PM
Did we change your mind - even a SMALL bit Vincent? (hope hope hope)
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posted October 25, 2004 06:37 PM
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Did we change your mind - even a SMALL bit Vincent? (hope hope hope)
I am not anti Republican (I would have voted for John McCain and Eisenhower) but No way Jose on the current crop!
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posted October 25, 2004 06:41 PM
*GROAN*
Back to the drawing board....
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posted October 26, 2004 04:37 AM
Ya know? I was a Democrat long ago , then the party was highjacked by the nut jobs out there ,then I became independent voting for the one running. I now have SO FEW choices that aren't baby killing homo tax idiots. I am however voting for TWO Democrats in my state that I actually trust. To me it's not about partys. Do whats right , and we'll ALL be better off. Love ya, mean it !
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posted October 26, 2004 03:37 PM
Edited By: slug on 26 Oct 2004 17:23
http://www.stolenhonor.com/documentary/watch-video.asp
something interesting...and it is Kerry's OWN WORDS that condemn his actions... For some reason, he refused to answer any of the questions that the journalist who researched this had.....and refused to even speak to the producers when asked....
on another note, i voted today, 2 republicans, and one democrat.
RNC for pres/VP, and for hosue of reps. DNC for state house of reps.
Edit: a review of the previous video link
Two things struck me in this account. One: Kerry's monotone as he droned on about hte things he had seen or done on regular sanctioned basis
the second was the lack of hateful comments ABOUT Kerry by the ones who he hurt. they were very calm and for the most part, very questioning of the WHY moreso than the what.
there were several times where i did think the speaker went overboard, but then again, that's no surprise considering what THAT person had endured while the anti-war movement moved on...
enough on that though, watch it for yourself, and you decide.
also, from Thomas Sowell, possibly my favorite columnist.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041026.shtml
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posted October 26, 2004 04:39 PM
I am Voting with Zammy! The last time I voted For a Republican was Against Barry! About 1992 and I actually went out to My Mother n laws to get Peggys Ballet. I may be a Democrat, but I would not vote for someone Like Barry ever!
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posted October 26, 2004 05:34 PM
Whoa! The two Democrats I'm voting for is a state judge and Bud Cramer. Still feelin' Bushy !!!
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posted October 26, 2004 05:55 PM
hehe
i almost was going to vote for independant for the US house seat
but NONE of the independants had any sort of real platform, and no real means to contact them
one was so extreme he didn't even garner a second look.
the top choice was looking to be a lady pastor, but again i couldn't find anything that she had that ws convincing enough to cast a vote her way.
the democrat contender was playing the "the incumbent is a terrorist" cards, so that was out of the question. so incumbent it was. plus he had a good voting record, so i felt no need to oust him.
the state rep has a very conservative voting record (most tennessee democrats are pretty conservative and pro constitution, so not hard for me to vote for)
though i WAS a bit annoyed by Bredesen saying he feared the Republicans might "take over" the state legislature...not sure what THAT was supposed to mean, but he has been pretty bi-partisan so probably not as bad as it sounded when he said it ;P
and at national level the independants were not worth a second look.
badnarik is a severe isolationist, and we'd be screwed to have him in charge of a lemonade stand, much less the USA. (and i am pretty much Libertarian at heart) Nader...well...he's nader... 'nuff said
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posted October 27, 2004 04:33 AM
AMen on Nader and Perott
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posted October 27, 2004 10:32 AM
GO BUSH GO!
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posted October 27, 2004 01:08 PM
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GO BUSH GO!
Me Too! I hope Bush GO's also! Gald we agree!
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