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posted November 01, 2004 11:00 AM        
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http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0%2C13319%2CFL_war_083104%2C00.htmlwhat's your excuse for this? deathpulse.



No excuse necessary. What Bush meant was that you can never fully rid the world of terrorists. That is true. Hell, the world STILL has Nazi's. The trick is to defeat their idiology to the point that it is no longer a threat. How hard is that to understand?

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posted November 01, 2004 11:02 AM        
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Yo DP!! Using your own logic, what about Iran? We know for a fact they are closer to Nukes than Iraq(after the fact) ever was!! Are they next? Where are we going to get the troops? They are all deployed elsewhere! We also know Iran has a rocket capable of hitting Tel Aviv, then what? What makes Iran different than Iraq anyway? This administration isn't even consistent in their own actions!


What about Iran? What will Kerry do for you in Iran? I must profess, I don't know too much about Iran - but what will the "Kerry god" do there? I'm not sure what Bush will do, but I trust him to excersize the same level of judgement that I have observed so far.

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posted November 01, 2004 11:08 AM        
BTW - is Iran the same level of danger to the world that Iraq was? Is its leader pushing the boundries of UN sanctions with the sole purpose of re-arming its country to fight additional wars/supply terrorists? I really don't know these answers - I venture to guess you don't either - maybe you do, but my point is, this is ANOTHER example of libs going off half-cocked. Get the facts. Make a plan. Execute. Hell - Kerry still hasn't detailed his plan for Iraq yet. My bet is that he doens't have a detailed plan for Iran at all.
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posted November 01, 2004 11:10 AM        
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http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0%2C13319%2CFL_war_083104%2C00.htmlwhat's your excuse for this? deathpulse.



No excuse necessary. What Bush meant was that you can never fully rid the world of terrorists. That is true. Hell, the world STILL has Nazi's. The trick is to defeat their idiology to the point that it is no longer a threat. How hard is that to understand?
you right wingers are always coming back after fact and saying what he really meant..is he not smart enough to do that for himself, the first time around...excuses...excuses...unbelievable...lol
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posted November 01, 2004 11:17 AM        
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No excuse necessary. What Bush meant was that you can never fully rid the world of terrorists. That is true. Hell, the world STILL has Nazi's. The trick is to defeat their idiology to the point that it is no longer a threat. How hard is that to understand?
being prior military (82 airborne...high speed low drag)i would sure hope the war that i may die for..atleast..(making it clearer) at the least..i would hope my commander and chief believed it could be won....
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posted November 01, 2004 11:39 AM        Edited By: deathpulse on 1 Nov 2004 11:47
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http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0%2C13319%2CFL_war_083104%2C00.htmlwhat's your excuse for this? deathpulse.



No excuse necessary. What Bush meant was that you can never fully rid the world of terrorists. That is true. Hell, the world STILL has Nazi's. The trick is to defeat their idiology to the point that it is no longer a threat. How hard is that to understand?
you right wingers are always coming back after fact and saying what he really meant..is he not smart enough to do that for himself, the first time around...excuses...excuses...unbelievable...lol


OK. let me get this straight - based on Bush's actions and words before this statement and after this statement you REALLY think that Bush thinks we can't win the war on terror - all based on this muddled statement? You REALLY think that?

Let me tell you what I really think. Bush is not the greatest public speaker. I'm suprised you guys haven't been all over this . Anyway, I would agree with you. Bush is not the best (and has proven this time and again) at expressing himself verbally. I think (reading this statement) that it is pretty clear that he was muddling through the statement and what he meant came out screwed up. Above is what I'm sure he meant. I submit to you THAT is reality.

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posted November 01, 2004 11:42 AM        
Ok - let me add:

7. Kerry's detailed plan for Iran. I guess, since this was brought up as an issue, Kerry has delivered a much better, much more compelling direction on Iran - what is it?

See, what I see now is typical. Libs keep loosing arguements and they are not able to back up their statements with fact - so they resort to crap slinging basd on soundbites (see my earlier comment). The whole Iran thing and the "Bush says we can't win the war on terror" comment support this claim. Amazing - WHERE IS YOUR PROOF ON THE SIX ISSUES YOU ALL BROUGHT UP EARIER!?!?!! Stop trying to "slight of hand" away from the issues.

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posted November 01, 2004 11:59 AM        
BTW Moody, 7 out of 10 people currently serving in the military currently support Bush over Kerry (from the Military Times). They certainly think that Bush is the one to lead them through battle.
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posted November 01, 2004 12:52 PM        
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BTW Moody, 7 out of 10 people currently serving in the military currently support Bush over Kerry (from the Military Times). They certainly think that Bush is the one to lead them through battle.
provide proof..
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posted November 01, 2004 01:03 PM        
I did - its from the Military Times... let me see if I can find a link... here is one:

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-383722.php

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posted November 01, 2004 01:06 PM        
Proof of the truth is easy.
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posted November 01, 2004 01:08 PM        Edited By: moodybluezx12r on 1 Nov 2004 13:12
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4110561see what i mean about misinformation...you quote a poll that surveyed mostly carrer military persons...not the rank in file...i have friends fighting over in iraq...none..support bush....quote another poll....not one that (i'm guessing) 70 % of people who are surveyed are republicans...get real..your funny, and still amazing...lol...
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posted November 01, 2004 01:09 PM        
uh ok - so your totally un-scientific method of "polling" is more reliable than what I posted? Come on. Post some polls that support YOUR possition. I've got a ton of friends over in Iraq too, most are SOLID Bush supporters. That doesn't mean squat.
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posted November 01, 2004 01:10 PM        
Give me a minute to take a BREATH!!!!


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posted November 01, 2004 01:11 PM        
OMG to couter me you quoted NPR? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Now thats not a bias opinion. Can you even show me ONE poll that demonstrates Kerry over Bush in military opinion?

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posted November 01, 2004 01:15 PM        
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OMG to couter me you quoted NPR? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Now thats not a bias opinion. Can you even show me ONE poll that demonstrates Kerry over Bush in military opinion?
never said the military supports kerry more than bush..i said that the poll you quoted had a 70 % republican base...see what i mean about misinformation (basically lieing)...My friends are in the 407 th Rigger company..and yours?
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posted November 01, 2004 01:18 PM        
MArines mostly - I never was a military man, so I'm not doing them justice by stating their details (sorry). My point still stands though - totally un-scientific.
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posted November 01, 2004 01:37 PM        Edited By: moodybluezx12r on 2 Nov 2004 08:52
what is un-scientfic..that all people i know in the military or use to be in the military support kerry over bush? that's the truth...it's not a poll..never said it was...where did i say that this was a poll..let me try this again...i said your poll (you quoted) is of mostly republicans..
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posted November 01, 2004 01:39 PM        
OK - so long as you acknowledge that I gave you a poll - you can agree or disagree with it - it is a poll that clearly indicates Bush over Kerry.
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posted November 01, 2004 01:42 PM        
BTW - stop listening to NPR. Thats almost as bad as Rush .
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posted November 01, 2004 01:43 PM        Edited By: moodybluezx12r on 1 Nov 2004 13:45
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I never was a military man
you mean to tell me...all this time i have be debating a chicken hawk...lol...you talk like a man that has served...no more for me...out.
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posted November 01, 2004 01:45 PM        
OMG - my opinion doesn't matter because I never served? That is more crap. JEEZUS. So - only people who serve in the military matter? CRAP CRAP CRAPPITY CRAP CRAP CRAP.
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posted November 01, 2004 02:02 PM        
"Moody Blues" Glad you could Join us! You found the one time that Bush told the truth and see how much trouble he got into! When Kerry said the same thing, Bush jumped on him like he has no memory of (Wait a minute, he does not have a memory for anything he has said even when they show him saying it)

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posted November 01, 2004 02:03 PM        
Good to also see that the Libs broke down into name calling when all else failed... LOL.
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posted November 01, 2004 02:03 PM        Edited By: moodybluezx12r on 1 Nov 2004 14:21
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OMG - my opinion doesn't matter because I never served? That is more crap. JEEZUS. So - only people who serve in the military matter? CRAP CRAP CRAPPITY CRAP CRAP CRAP.
seriuosly..no intent to disrespect you..but it's kind hard to talk to people about this war that have never put it on the line (served their country... peace or war time)...we can talk taxes...health care...anything but iraq...ya see..i got fiends putting it on the line over there...and some maybe getting deployed..soon....i know you understand...right?
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