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posted September 16, 2004 04:22 PM
What is up with Police Riding Gear?
I'm not griping toward the police...but why is it every police officer on a motorcycle has the lamest, worst protective riding gear on imaginable.
Let's just start with the open-faced helmet. As much as I hate the flip-up helmets (I despise these helmets), anything with full coverage is better than those open faced ones they wear.
Helmet aside, they have no armor or jacket or pants. Geez...they just have their plain-clothed uniform on, with all the cool toys and guns attached, but nothing to protect them.
At least get some armor! Textile if the department wont put out money for leather!
I goto Beaudry's Motorsports in Post Falls and I see all the cop bikes back there being worked on. I know their budgets have to be rediculous to keep all those bikes on the road with maintenance, but what about gear?
At least make the police officers look like posers. Sportbike riders who are hanger queens may wear their leather gear so they look good sippin that latte at Starbucks, but at least give some gear so the police officers have something to pose in when they are sittin back eating their Krispy Kreme.
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posted September 16, 2004 05:22 PM
Dude, sorry to hear that you got bagged for another speeder!!!
I guess your venting now, making fun of the cops lack of gear and donut eating habits...
In case you care as to why they dont have the correct gear, is because thats the look the Police Depts. want...They dont really care about safety for their WheelMen, its all about the looks!!!
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beansbaxter
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posted September 16, 2004 05:25 PM
Actually I wasnt venting...I was just curious was all. Everytime I see a cop drive by on his moto, it just shocks me to see them wearing nothing protective and hear I am with a leather jacket and such...
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posted September 16, 2004 05:36 PM
I haven't heard Worm chime in, but let's address your points one at a time:
>Let's just start with the open-faced helmet. As much as I hate the flip-up >helmets (I despise these helmets), anything with full coverage is better >than those open faced ones they wear.
The open face helmet allows the officer to speak with a clear, loud voice in any situation. Even the flip up requires him to stop doing whatever he's doing and flip it up.
>Helmet aside, they have no armor or jacket or pants. Geez...they just >have their plain-clothed uniform on, with all the cool toys and guns >attached, but nothing to protect them.
I gotta agree with this one. Those rayon pants are gonna look mighty nice 20 years after your disability retirement as they will still be melted into your legs and ass...
>At least get some armor! Textile if the department wont put out money >for leather!
I think the officers have to buy their own gear. Hey, how about we start a fundraiser to buy better protective gear for our motorcycle cop buddies?
Buehler? Buehler? Buehler?
>I goto Beaudry's Motorsports in Post Falls and I see all the cop bikes >back there being worked on. I know their budgets have to be rediculous >to keep all those bikes on the road with maintenance, but what about >gear?
It really is all about budget. Budget for the bikes, none for the cops.
>At least make the police officers look like posers. Sportbike riders who >are hanger queens may wear their leather gear so they look good sippin >that latte at Starbucks, but at least give some gear so the police officers >have something to pose in when they are sittin back eating their Krispy >Kreme.
Now yer bein silly!
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posted September 16, 2004 05:38 PM
Actually, I think Beans has been getting busted so much lately, he's starting to enjoy it. Just look at those pics of the Bellevue motorcycle cop and him! You know he was giving the cop the 'willy finger' in the last pic!
Admit it Beans, you just want some big butch leather clad cop to bust your brown ass you show you how well he can use his 'nightstick'!
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posted September 16, 2004 07:13 PM
heh...most if not all motorcycle cops wear a bullet proof vest when riding (and most other times for that matter). Chances are thats far better at protecting vital organs than anything you own or wear
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posted September 16, 2004 09:04 PM
What happens to a sidearm as it slides down the highway at 50 mph?
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beansbaxter
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posted September 16, 2004 09:05 PM
Hmmm...does the safety give away or would it really matter with that much heat going against medal and potential gun powder....
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posted September 16, 2004 09:06 PM
same thing it would do if he were wearing full leathers and a closed faced helmet. Dont quite see the point of that argument given the context of the thread topic?
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posted September 17, 2004 07:33 AM
Same reason the detectives in Crown Point talk like Cipowitcz. These guys get their chops off the TV. "Ponch and Jon never wore any leather! We ain't wearin' no leather." The 'whole guy on a harley in leather' just screams N. Halsted Street nightlife to me. Yous Chicagoans will know about that. I suppose I am gonna have to get over the "gayness" of leather pants before I leave half my ass on I-65 one day.
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posted September 17, 2004 07:46 AM
Same reason the detectives in Crown Point talk like Cipowitcz. These guys get their chops off the TV. "Ponch and Jon never wore any leather! We ain't wearin' no leather." The 'whole guy on a harley in leather' just screams N. Halsted Street nightlife to me. Yous Chicagoans will know about that. I suppose I am gonna have to get over the "gayness" of leather pants before I leave half my ass on I-65 one day.
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posted September 17, 2004 08:30 AM
Edited By: beansbaxter on 17 Sep 2004 09:31
zxfingyz...I am seeing double there.
ycis...what do you mean by "Dont quite see the point of that argument given the context of the thread topic?"
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posted September 17, 2004 11:21 AM
The comment about the gun was what I was referring to.
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posted September 17, 2004 11:47 AM
Aaaah now it makes sense.
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posted September 17, 2004 11:57 AM
Edited By: worm~hole on 17 Sep 2004 13:04
This is what the worm knows and thinks:
The duty uniform of a law enforcement department needs to depict professionalism without intimidation. This is why some present-day agencies forbid the use of black leather gloves and military-style 'utilities' as a daily uniform. The special units (some K9, all SWAT, and select-super-secret-squirrel teams) get to wear these utilities as a matter of, well, utility and practical function.
But some department think that these types of uniforms as a daily use item depict intimidation more than professionalism....and ooooooo, we don't wanna scare the public into thinking that we're a buncha' jackbooted thugs, now would we? And that's really the crux of it. So, in the interest of continuity and uniformity (pun intended), all patrol personnel wear the same uniform or at least the same design uniform (the motor pants have a yolk-cut in the crotch area for stretch and movement on a bike and the motor-gods wear knee-high leather motorcycle boots).
But as far as armor? They wear their vest and leather jacket that the regular dogs wear. Think of the motor-god's gun belt as his hip slider...gun on one side, radio on the other side. Count the knees, elbows, and shoulders as the first casualty.
I've seen the Euro-cops wear Aerostitch-type armored riding gear and flip-up-type fullface helmets. Most U.S. motor-gods only deal with traffic-type incidents (CHiPS was a made-for-TV show, right?). The need to be able to communicate rapidly and clearly is usually not as critical as with the regular dogs. I don't think that it would take to much time to flip up the chin-bar. I've always thought that if I had the opportunity to work motors, I'd get a full-on Bohn armored undersuit and wear a 'looser' uniform over it...I might look like I might want to pump you up, but that's no more intimidating than some of the more well-developed cops out there with awesome commnad presence wearing super-tight shirts....and I don't see anyhting in my department's P&P that says that I can't wear the armor under the long-sleeved uniform. I'd also see about using a bike like the ZZR-1200 as a patrol bike
Yeah, Dannyboy...I'm with you on this one...and its all about public relations
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