posted January 21, 2004 11:17 PM
You're right of course, (you being the prince of light). Thanks for correcting me. I certainly wrote it bassackwards.
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posted January 22, 2004 04:20 AM
Doug.... I wish I did own that poster, but I don't. I was doing a search to see if I could find the movie for sale on DVD and ran across a place that sold old movie posters. They had two of these I think. Don't remember the price, or the name of the site. I'll see if I can find the info for you though.
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posted January 22, 2004 11:23 AM
Point blank Torque Sucked!!! and thats a complement!!! That movie should have been called Ball Lickers! I saw a bootleg thank god if I paid to see that bull shit I would have started a riot in the show!!! After that Cube should go back to music. There was nothing that I saw in the movie that I enjoyed! Even that little bitch pit bull was a pole smoker.
posted January 22, 2004 04:30 PM
I kind of liked it! But then I like anything with sportbikes in it. I definitely liked the premise of the Harley types(sounded like Harleys, looked like Jap choppers) taking a back seat to the sportbike crowd! A refreshing change of pace! Got to remember, it's just a movie not real. Matrix's motorcycle scenes were just as fake.
posted January 22, 2004 08:01 PM
A real excellennt plot and movie would be a "Thursday night ride". Thoughs of you in the lowermain land may know of it. Its about Two Hours Long. Make it in real time. Outfit every rider (20-25) with head gear for audio (to hear what is REALLY said) and two vid cams - one forward and one to the back. Start the Movie with the participants arriving at the gas station with a camera shot from 1/8 mile or so away. No sound. Then Go from third person to every first person. Edit as required. Then go and let the fun begin. It would be a smash hit. - Figuratively speaking :-) and possibly even literally. :-( People would have there brains in overdrive for 100-mins.
10 mins before the ride and 10 mins at end.
Make it so you never see the participants faces-or plates. I already know the crew to do it. Should be safe ride. I already know the place to go it. It would not be as bizzare as Ghostrider, but a distance third but with real riders and real emotion and real ACTION.
The end would be everyone (hopefully) arriving at the destination point to DEBRIEF, maybe even decompress.
Would be a very inexpensive film to make because the film would only take 2 hrs to film. If you had to, you could do it all over again, again only 2 hours to film. They would have so much film to edit they would be arguing over which cut to include. The trick heard is it has to be all in real time. No bouncing around. Start to finish. Like "24"
What do you think Freek??? I am tired of being broke I want to be rich!! The next original "Gone in Sixty Seconds"
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posted January 22, 2004 09:01 PM
hmm.. a very interesting idea zx23rr! not a mainstream movie of course, but it would make for a cool bike vid. a concept i havent seen done yet. u'd want to do it on a truly epic set of roads. maybe an area in cali where u jsut go from one awesome highway to another. the logistics and coreography could be tricky. oh hey! here's a trick shot i'd like to see: u know those mini choppers they use to film difficult flying shots in some movies? get someone (maybe in a chaser car) to control the chopper and have it swoop back and forth along the line of bikes while brunin thru the twiesties. THAT would be a wicked shot.
posted January 22, 2004 09:40 PM
Well there is always Duffy lake road. Start in Pemperton at the PetroCan or the Shell, give her till the lake. stop for 5 Blast to Lilloeet, then to lytton. Or the reverse. The road is very very technical over the years. (winnebaggos and all) But I still think the in the back yard is more "this is just another ride" program. Like I said, make it real time and REAL. Mount some of the camera each at a different location to change the field of vision. We should get together on this and do some brain storming.
Could you amagine it on the IMAX. Everyone would be tilting the heads and bodies to keep with the flow.
I always remember after our ride coming off with a grin ear to ear so big it hurts. If caught, we may have to walk for a while, but no crowbar hotel up here (YET) But if it is a hit, and how could it not be. The real deal-none of this bogus stunt shite in Biker Boyz or Torque.
I have thought of this format for a movie for a while now. Anyway. we should go for it. Have all winter and spring to put it together. What do you say?????
posted January 23, 2004 01:40 AM
frank, i should send u a couple vid clips i got. very similar. one of them in particular i REALLY like. it's the most similar to what u'r talkin about. do u have yahoo or icq? too big to email to u but i could transfer the file straight to u. if so, send me ur username or ID in an email.
posted February 01, 2004 02:39 PM
I finally got to see Biker Boyz......people have told me that Torque is worse, but I'm not so sure. I knew it too would be bad, but it is almost funny to see the "Hollywoodized" version of what being a biker is like. There are lots of flaws, but the thing that gets me is the helmets...... the star of the show runs around with a pretty stupid looking 1/2 helmet. It's open face which works oh-so-well at high speeds and is one of those units with so little coverage that it is almost not DOT legal. I guess this is all so that we (the audience) can see this guy and identify with him. I guess it's the same concept as the movies about the special ops guys...and they're running around without balaclavas or goggles or helmets...just so that the audience can see that it is Brad Pitt (or who ever) running around. To me, the realism of the movie is more important than the star power. Torque with the stupid stunts with sportbikes doing stoppies on palm leaf covered dirt, or the "chick fight" with the two girls wheelieing their bikes and duelling with them like they are freaking swords.....and then there is Biker boys with the big final scene with the ZX12 versus the Busa...and they are racing on a freaking gravel road.....it is so painful to watch!
A couple of points about this...
1) I don't care how desperate the racers were to have a place to go to race...no one I have ever ridden with or met would ever choose dirt to race on with a sportbike...especially the ones in the movie.
2) Back to the helmet again....I used to ride with a beanie about 5 years ago...it was hard shelled and plastic and had a chin strap. It wasn't even a little bit safe, but it was "cool". While I rode my Sportster it was ok. I got a Vmax and all of a sudden realized that this new bike could kill me without much effort. The helmet would begin to lift at about 55 mph, and was stangling me by the time I hit 80 mph. I Threw it out and got a full face helmet. In Biker Boyz this dickhead is racing supposedly very fast (I don't think the producers of the movie have a clue how really fast these bikes are), and using that useless piece of crap on his head.
Why is it that it is supposedly impossible to create a realistic movie about the things we love to do? Are we as a society so numbed to our entertainment that everything hase to be "extreme"? I am a martial artist among other things and can't even stand to watch martial arts movies...simply because good, real martial arts don't look good on the screen. It has to be "Movie Fu" in order for the movie to look "right" Why has no one made a movie about UFC style, full contact mixed martial arts? Sure the UFC has its' times where the action is a little slow, but there are lots of other times where there is some great action. I would think the same is true of sportbikes and racing: isn't the activity itself action enough without adding the bullshit. I think of the videos of the dude on the turbo 'Busa and think that is "extreme" enough.....we don't need to add to that to make it more cool. Wheelieing past traffic at 180 mph is extreme enough for me...
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posted February 01, 2004 04:45 PM
Actually, there was a recent Jackie Chan movie that had a bunch of UFC guys in it with a fun fight scene.
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posted February 01, 2004 07:44 PM
I think Jackie Chan movies are very entertaining...and he is a fantastic acrobat, but Wushu (the art Jackie does if I rember correctly) is not a true martial art (martial meaning "war"). I believe Jackie and Samo Hyung (sic??) were both members of the Chinese national circus in their younger days. The problem with Jackie's movies is that the comic action ruins the credibility of the UFC atheletes in the movie. It's sort of the same as putting Pee Wee Gleason or Rickey Gadson in Torque or Biker Boys as bumbling loser drag racers, or for that matter putting Jesse James in an Auto Zone commercial. It's all about credibility. I lost so much respect for Ken Shamrock when he went to the WWF. All bullshit aside he could kick the living shit out of any of the WWF guys and not even break a sweat. However, that doesn't mean that he made a smart decision as a legitimate martial artist and school owner. I remember talking with my club's head instructor about Ken Shamrock and how Ken had offered to come up here and give a seminar...for a measley $2500 USD plus expenses. My instructor chuckled at him and politely declined. He told me: "$2500 + expenses for a WWF wrestler? I don't think so!"
I think what I really wish for, is a good plot line about a real subject, and without the cheese factor and the pumped up machismo bullshit. I mean honestly, do people anywhere in the world talk to each other like that? Movies like XXX, Torque, Biker Boys, etc are so far from reality, and yet people flock to them. I guess I'm guilty, too....I have seen most of them, I go to get a good laugh. The group that I went to see Torque with knew, before the movie started, that it was shit. But it was good for a laugh I guess.
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posted February 01, 2004 08:46 PM
I thought the Matrix Reloaded had better and almost more realistic sportbike scenes in it.
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