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posted January 09, 2004 06:17 PM
Spent some moola $$$ today, ZX-12R+
Ordered the JE Piston's 1287cc kit today!! Their site says 13.0-1 CR, but I plan on making it a little higher.
Cylinder block was sent off to Millenium Technologies too.
http://www.mt-llc.com/index_home.shtml
Head has also been sent off for some porting/polishing and whatnot. 
Adjustable cam-chain whatchamacallit ordered too to make sure I get the right cam-timing.
I EEEEVEN went ahead and ordered the HD valve springs and Ti retainers since I HOPE to get richer and get nitrous one day.
http://www.jepistons.com/pdf/2002-motox5.pdf ...bottem of page.
  
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zx12richard
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posted January 09, 2004 08:28 PM
How much was all of it... Been wanting to do the same... Or turbo...
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posted January 09, 2004 09:11 PM
Sweet !!!
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posted January 09, 2004 09:54 PM
My cost >>> $1,510 ..........but that's misleading! A friend owns a bike business and is getting things at cost for me,.....ALSO, I'm giving him a running 9R engine, complete. (value @ $700 or so)
We only briefly covered retail costs, but I think it breaks down like this:
Retail cost is something like:
Head work - $1000 for 'Stage 2' type of work
Piston kits run $1200-ish
Bearings - seems like $300-$350? (crank and rod)
Springs/Retainers - $350-$400?
Cam Adjuster - $60?
Gasket Kit - Dunno. $200? (complete engine)
Maybe others can do a more accurate job!
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zx12richard
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posted January 09, 2004 10:02 PM
I was basically concerned of price of piston kit and replate cost... Have never heard what they run...
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posted January 10, 2004 06:43 AM
Good luck! and if you need any help give me a shout!
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ra12r
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posted January 10, 2004 08:16 AM
Better than heavy duty springs and ti retainers is to get the block O-ringed for nos.
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zxlnt
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posted January 10, 2004 08:50 AM
You will want the HD springs and retainers. I think people were have problems with nitrous backfires and banging against the exhaust valve and knocking the retainers loose and then dropping a valve.
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BA
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posted January 10, 2004 01:30 PM
Ra, you're probably right. O-ringing the block is a very good way to go.
I'm with zxlnt though in that I think you'd still want the springs for a little protection against the reason he mentioned and/or valve float when on nitrous and touching the rev limiter. (hey, it happens.) 
hell, it's all just protection...... kinda like double-bagging it. LOL
ZX12 Richard, I think Mill. Tech would normally charge $129-$179 for boring/plating per cylinder.
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zxlnt
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posted January 10, 2004 01:32 PM
Richard I have millenium dealer here in town. If/when your ready get with me....
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posted January 10, 2004 01:59 PM
BLING yO! 
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posted January 10, 2004 02:41 PM
The Back Fire and banging (I think) is from using air shifters or any shifter than cuts the ignition off and on which allows the cylinder to fill with NOS and even bigger explosion that lifts the exhaust valve off of the seat!
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zx12richard
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posted January 10, 2004 03:36 PM
Cool Tony I will hollar at you.. Right now just trying to figure what its going to take to make a big bore cost wise... So I know how much I need..
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Outlaw1
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posted January 11, 2004 08:00 AM
BA can you tell me why you went with JE 1287 kit instead of Muzzy 1270 kit?
I was just wondering since most run Muzzys kit?
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BA
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posted January 11, 2004 10:28 AM
Since I run a stock arm, I like having the extra cc's and still having the engine look stock on the outside.
I picked JE over MTC because the pistons had deeper skirts.
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posted January 11, 2004 08:54 PM
???
The 1270 also "looks" stock, besides....the extra cc's don't make the difference in power....the compression and the rings do.
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BA
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posted January 12, 2004 10:57 AM
we shall see. all else being equal, there is no replacement for displacement. I'll take care of the compression ratio.
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posted January 12, 2004 03:26 PM
BA - My thoughts, exactly!
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