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posted November 18, 2007 11:30 PM
12R vs C14
...a few questions for those of you who have owned both: as far as the engine is concerned what can a rider expect when riding a C14?...judging by the seat of the pants, is the C14 engine that much smoother than the 12R?....is the overall performance that much more than the 12R?...or does the C14's additional weight negate the additional hp/tq and its overall performance and make it not have that much more performance than the lighter 12R?
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dw4402
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posted November 19, 2007 07:58 PM
I traded my '05 12R for my C14. The first thing I missed was the engine performance. The 12R was a rocket, and the C14 is just fast. I used to walk my friend on his Busa all day with my 12R and now I can't keep up! Handling wise I actually think the C14 handles better than the 12R did because the higher wider bars allow you the throw it around easier than the low clip ons on the 12R did. I don't really miss the 12's power until I ride with my Busa friend, then I wish I still had it. Other than that, the C14 power is still plenty fun and I will be pulling the flies and adding a PC after Christmas, so that should improve things a bit. As far as smoothness, the C14 seems smoother than me 12 was but I didn't have a vibration problem with my 12. I think the biggest hinderance to the C14 is not the weight but the secondary butterflies. You really don't feel the weight but you do feel those darn flies holding you back in the lower rev range.
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Danny
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posted November 19, 2007 08:02 PM
I currently own both a 03 ZX-12R and the new C-14. I have to say that after I got the C-14 I wondered if I needed the ZX-12 anymore. The new C-14 is that good. I used to think that the 12 was one of the smoothest bikes around but the 14 is noticeably smoother. As far as performance goes the 14 is absolute rocket but still not as violently fast as the 12. The 12 still scares the crap out of me every time I twist the throttle. In the handling department the 14 feels like it is easier to corner fast on. I think ultimately though that the 12 handles better and corners faster but it takes more effort than the 14. If it came down to owning only one of the bikes I would have to go with the C-14. It is brutally fast and handles better than any 700 lb bike has a right to. It also has the added benefits of being capable of carrying a passenger and luggage and being incredibly comfortable but... nothing puts a grin on my face like the 12-R.
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TedG
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posted November 19, 2007 08:52 PM
I had a 2000 12R and no the 14 is not as fast. But I know good and well the C14 handles better and I loved the way the 12 handled. The 12 felt faster than my 10 also but in reality the 10 was faster (except for maybe top end). Given a choice, the 14 wins hands down. The 14 is much smoother than the 12 was. The best part is you can go tear up a twisty road at pretty much the same pace as the 12 and then sit back and relax and enjoy the scenery and the road when things straighten out in creamy smoothness.
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posted November 20, 2007 02:23 AM
....good feedback from all of you...this is the kind of real-world stuff I like reading about a new bike I'm interested in rather than some of the garbage I read by some know-it-alls in the magazines who will tell you its better than sliced bread then one month later write that its stale and molded bread....thanks!...I think the trigger pull just got a bit lighter 
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nabrxx
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posted November 20, 2007 08:43 AM
I still cant believe the MCN write up. I have usually agreed with them in the past...I went with the real world riders take here ...and Im pleased as all hell...this bike is a rip!!!!
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utzx12r
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posted November 20, 2007 11:02 AM
I'm real close to replacing my 12R with a C14. I need something that goes slow as well as fast. Thanks guys for the info.
Know anyone looking for a real nice 2000 12R?
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