desertrider
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posted October 05, 2007 04:49 PM
AREA P Article
Found a great article on Area P exhaust. From other post I have read they are great and their customer service is great. Plus in the article it says no PCIII is required unless you want the most HP: I know where my funds are going.
For the same reason - bang for the buck - all Area P's slip-on systems are carefully crafted to offer significant power gains while keeping close enough to the stock fuel curve that they don't require the use of a Power Commander or other aftermarket tuning system.
"With our slip-ons, you can gain 3-5 horsepower for less than $500, while adding a tuning device costs another $350 and might possibly net you another 1-2 horsepower on some models.
The rest of the article:
http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/inside-area-p-no-limits-62438.html
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MasterBlaster
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posted October 05, 2007 06:14 PM
what do you expect a mfg to say? Uh ours are not the best but they are almost as good. They all claim theirs are the best. Any slip on that has less restriction than the stocker will do the same thing, as long as you are using the stock header. You can make your own, or recycle a used aftermarket can and do the same thing sans a PC. Its not rocket science just to replace the can. The main thing you are doing is losing lots of weight, increasing the sound and gaining a little flow maybe by losing the cat and stock baffles. The PC will do more for you than just maybe gaining 1-2 hp. It will give an over all smoother running bike and benefits throughout the RPM range. Plus a PC can be had for about 280 or so bucks. I am sure the APs are fine, but they wont magically do anything better than tons of others. I personally will do the C14 like I did my ZX14. I will band saw off the can and use the stock midpipe to mount one of the extra cans I have in my shop. Either D&D or HMF. With the 500 bux I save, I will buy the PC and tune the system.
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TedG
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posted October 05, 2007 07:40 PM
quote: what do you expect a mfg to say? Uh ours are not the best but they are almost as good. They all claim theirs are the best. Any slip on that has less restriction than the stocker will do the same thing, as long as you are using the stock header. You can make your own, or recycle a used aftermarket can and do the same thing sans a PC. Its not rocket science just to replace the can. The main thing you are doing is losing lots of weight, increasing the sound and gaining a little flow maybe by losing the cat and stock baffles. The PC will do more for you than just maybe gaining 1-2 hp. It will give an over all smoother running bike and benefits throughout the RPM range. Plus a PC can be had for about 280 or so bucks. I am sure the APs are fine, but they wont magically do anything better than tons of others. I personally will do the C14 like I did my ZX14. I will band saw off the can and use the stock midpipe to mount one of the extra cans I have in my shop. Either D&D or HMF. With the 500 bux I save, I will buy the PC and tune the system.
There is a bit more to it than you think. Also Kerry probably knows more about exhaust than 99.9% of the motorcycle industry. His stuff is beautiful and he supplies dyno and sound charts to back his claims. He is also one of the moderators of this site and he is easily accessable for questions about his products.
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fish_antlers

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posted October 05, 2007 08:25 PM
Yep! Kerry's the man! ...
article about him here:
http://www.bikeland.org/story.php?storyID=15710
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stevewfl

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posted October 05, 2007 08:43 PM
"Plus in the article it says no PCIII is required unless you want the most HP: I know where my funds are going."
what slip-ons DO "require" a PCIII?
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