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cporter45


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posted September 03, 2007 04:34 PM        
I have a 400 c.c. scooter,Want to move up a 1000 c.c.s

Hello ,


I have been reading this forum for a while and have been following the production process for the Kawasaki Concours 14 since its first introduction. I really am interested in getting a Concours. A thousand cc upgrade is alot, but I tink that if I take it easy and gradually improve my riding skills the Concours the right move. Any suggestions?I am fixing to take an MDF course- the scooter- a Yamaha Majesty is what I ride now. It is pretty slow from take off almost 10 sec to 60 but it does top out at 95 mph on my Garmin gps. Input appreciated because now I am used to her,the power is not nearly enough!

C.

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tweaked_eye


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posted September 03, 2007 04:41 PM        
ur not ready for this much power yet.
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cporter45


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posted September 03, 2007 05:26 PM        
Thankyou for your post tweaked eye

Not even if I take it easy?

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cporter45


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posted September 03, 2007 05:38 PM        
Oops

Thats an MSF course. My only two worries is that 1 the left lever on my scoot is a brake and 2 I don't want to rev so high that i pull a wheelie on my new Concours!!!

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TedG


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posted September 03, 2007 07:35 PM        
The C14 is an easy motorcycle to ride. It's manners are very good. The Concours does not wheelie very easily. It is mostly a matter of learning to ride a big powerful motorcycle.
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rifleman223


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posted September 03, 2007 07:43 PM        
quote:
Hello ,


I have been reading this forum for a while and have been following the production process for the Kawasaki Concours 14 since its first introduction. I really am interested in getting a Concours. A thousand cc upgrade is alot, but I tink that if I take it easy and gradually improve my riding skills the Concours the right move. Any suggestions?I am fixing to take an MDF course- the scooter- a Yamaha Majesty is what I ride now. It is pretty slow from take off almost 10 sec to 60 but it does top out at 95 mph on my Garmin gps. Input appreciated because now I am used to her,the power is not nearly enough!

C.


Best judgement says that this is too much from a scooter. Please consider a smaller bike, like a 500 Ninja or even a cruiser. The change is not even worth mentioning because it is off the charts. sorry, but that is my opinion. As much as I love for people to be on bikes... "retreat is a better form of valor" here.

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tweaked_eye


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posted September 03, 2007 07:53 PM        
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Not even if I take it easy?


I am sure you could pilot a Concours just fine...but, experience pays when things go crazy...someone cuts you off, oil slick, too much speed into a corner.....you learn these things over time and mostly miles....IMHO after coming off a couple years of aggressive dual sport riding....my skill level improved alot riding in mixed conditions.

It sure is not hard to lust after this bike....but, my last bike was a suzuki 650 vstrom and there was just about not anything it could not do well. As with some of the other posters....do yourself a favor so you can live longer and ride longer and get a real bike in the 650-750cc range....and, commit to riding in various conditions. I would guess that this Concours will be around for quite a while...and, maybe in a couple of year or 30,000 miles later when you are reading to purchase one the glove box will be fixed. LOL

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wormgear


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posted September 04, 2007 12:02 AM        
Also consider that the c-14 is not nimble at parking and feet down speeds. Unless you're very tall you don't get much leg room to recover if it leans a bit to far. It's very easy to drop it in a parking lot. Let alone how different it is from what you're used to at speed or in an emergengy situation. I'm with tweaked, work your way up to it and get a real bike in the 650-750cc range for a while first.
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bikerscape


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posted September 04, 2007 04:41 PM        
It's the combo of control differences, weight differences and power. Mostly the control difference coupled with the power you could unleash. I accelerated out of a left in first gear this last weekend and was surprised how easily the torque broke the rear wheel loose. Must pay homage to the power.
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cporter45


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posted September 04, 2007 05:57 PM        
Thanks everyone for their posts. Can i get some suggestions for a bike that will be a step up from my scooter?
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rifleman223


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posted September 04, 2007 06:47 PM        
Depends on how you ride. A cruiser, sport ?
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AllStingNoBling


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posted September 04, 2007 07:09 PM        
quote:
Thanks everyone for their posts. Can i get some suggestions for a bike that will be a step up from my scooter?


If you want to go with a Kawasaki, get a Versys.

The Concours 14 is my second bike, my old bike was a 2003 Buell XB9S, which I had from 9 Sept 05, to 9 Aug 07. That is a very good bike to learn on, in fact; if it wasn't for my particular bike's mechanical issues (surprise, it was the harley sourced motor, who would've thought?!), I would still own it. The Buell was a great bike to learn on because it's motor was nice and tractible, it's limited steering head lock-to-lock range forced you to use your whole body as a control unit, and the natural balance of the bike's chassis was top confidence inspiring.

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tweaked_eye


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posted September 04, 2007 07:34 PM        
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If you want to go with a Kawasaki, get a Versys.



I agree...or, actually the KLR or a Suzuki Vstrom.....the KLR is more offroad friendly and less sexy...the Versys and the strom are great bikes but the Versys is brand new so you might want to wait a year for the bugs to get worked out.

You could get a super clean 06/07 650cc Vstrom used for about $6K.....rock solid..plenty of power....I would routinely ride at 100mph for long stretch and never sense engine strain.

Here is a gallery of my vstrom pix...

http://tinyurl.com/2s9ka9




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reggiegroober


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posted September 05, 2007 02:05 AM        
Ducati monster 620 or the like
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posted September 05, 2007 05:26 AM        
Lots of good used bikes out there. IF you want to sport tour look at a vfr800 honda w/ hard bags.. You will probably fall in love with it.
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richdwill


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posted September 28, 2007 10:50 AM        
I have a Suzuki burgman 650 my first bike. I am 5'11" tall have, taken the motorcycle training classes in Texas. Would you say the same to me upgrading to the C14.
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fastestbusaaround


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posted September 28, 2007 03:28 PM        
Uhhhh -- the concours isn't the bike for beginners, no offence. It's a big heavy beast for riders with more experience. Go for something a bit more docile, lighter and way lower than a C14 for a 1st bike, unless you feel like spending $$$ for bike repairs each time you drop it, not to mention the injuries that come along with low speed bike drops. Just my .02
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