posted July 23, 2007 09:35 PM
C14 vs ST1300 Before I got my C14, I had an ST1300. The C14 is is better in my view and here are the reasons:
1. C14 has more cornering clearance.
2. C14 is lighter steering.
3. C14 fuel injection is spot on. ST1300 is very twitchy (on-off throttle problem).
4. C14 has little, if any driveline lash.
5. C14 transmission shifts much smoother than the ST.
I'm not down on the ST1300. I put many thousands of happy miles on it, but I am definitely happier with the Concours 14.
Just got back from a 300 mile ride in the mountains and I'm still smiling. C14 put the sport back in sport-touring. I love it.
posted July 24, 2007 01:27 AM
I'm thinking Honda needs to upgrade. I had these same issues with my 2006 VFR:
2. C14 is lighter steering.
3. C14 fuel injection is spot on. ST1300 is very twitchy (on-off throttle problem).
5. C14 transmission shifts much smoother than the ST.
posted August 05, 2007 02:59 PM
It looks like the C14 bags are much higher (affecting the mirror view).
The local police here tested the ST1300 and rejected it because the fairings bottom out when the bike is ridden off curbs. Would the C14 be better in that regard?
Thanks for the photo. The ST1300 in comparison is like a scooter.
quote:It looks like the C14 bags are much higher (affecting the mirror view).
The local police here tested the ST1300 and rejected it because the fairings bottom out when the bike is ridden off curbs. Would the C14 be better in that regard?
Thanks for the photo. The ST1300 in comparison is like a scooter.
Yep, the C14 is higher at the rear. I think the C14 wouldn't bottom out that fast because of the firmer suspension?
posted August 06, 2007 04:31 AM
WHY does the ass end of the GTR14 have to be so friggin high?
Just plain STUPID is my opinion, its a sport tour for Christs sake, skip the track bike bs.
Kawi talks of the low center of gravity, well that center would drop quite a bit when those bags are loaded for a weeks worth of riding IF they were mounted down where the competitors are. AND the mirrors would be usable.
Hard bags mounted on a ZX14 are lower, and it is not a sport tour market bike.
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posted August 06, 2007 02:36 PM
Edited By: ozzy on 6 Aug 2007 15:38
quote: that center would drop quite a bit when those bags are loaded for a weeks worth of riding IF they were mounted down where the competitors are.
You are so correct swift, KAWI put the bags to hi,, and when loaded they raise the cog, unlike the competitors that set lower and do not cause nearly as drastic of a change.
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posted August 06, 2007 04:24 PM
Edited By: SunsetRider on 6 Aug 2007 17:25
I think the high arse-end on the Kawi looks way hot compared to the station wagon beside it.
Wgnorman: your comment is unclear respecting the VFR . . . are you saying the Connie is lighter steering than the VFR????
posted August 06, 2007 06:08 PM
Somehow the higher bags make it look sportier. The lower bags look more tourerish.
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quote:I think the high arse-end on the Kawi looks way hot compared to the station wagon beside it.
Wgnorman: your comment is unclear respecting the VFR . . . are you saying the Connie is lighter steering than the VFR????
Yes - I feel the C14 out handles the 06 VFR, and for me, feels much quicker and lighter in the turns. I never felt real good with the 06 VFR in the turns as I do the FZ1, GSXR1000, or the C14 - these three just respond to where I want to go without any resistance - I always felt I was working the VFR. I just think the front end was mushier (my 97 VFR was the the same way until I upgraded it with Progressive springs, tapered bearings, and 15 wt fork oil) - stock out of the box, I like the FZ1, G14 front end and suspensions better - GSXR suspension stock is absolutely great -
posted August 08, 2007 08:56 PM
The ST from the rear looks like a mega scooter.
Overall, the C14 is miles ahead in everything...well almost everything.
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