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posted November 10, 2008 12:29 AM
 Edited By: FullTilt on 10 Nov 2008 08:30
ZX-14 vs Busa - in a roll, which of the top guns takes the 'W' - 2 part
Here is the first part: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=JAEBzpanGPs
Second with different ending: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=vFFpwxv0Caw
The Hayabusa and the ZX-14 are so close in performance, small changes make a big difference.
These two runs were done within minutes of each other with the exact same machinery. The only thing that changed was the rider on the Kawasaki.
   
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fish_antlers
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posted November 10, 2008 06:21 AM
learn to use the "embed" feature.
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naj454
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posted November 10, 2008 06:58 AM
B. S, Whenever you want to try this stupid setup again email me. Please!!!!!
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posted November 10, 2008 07:12 AM
Edited By: street racer on 10 Nov 2008 15:13
Dayum...wish I could have been there. The RED ZX14,s are so much faster it wouldnt have been a contest !!
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posted November 10, 2008 08:38 AM
Wow that was stupid...somebody laid a camera, in the road of 3 bikes racing. I would have beaten the brakes off that guy. Plus i was waiting on the camera bike in the middle to clip the guy on the 14...i guess if he wasn't so damn close to that guy he would have been the one to run over the camera laying in the road. All this still proves nothing....you need the same size rider with the same experance kicking it at the same time both with a tight tuck. I still don't understand what the big deal is compairing these two bikes...
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posted November 10, 2008 09:00 AM
Like I thought, the rider in the first vid was a bit afraid of the power and not completely in it. Once you got onboard, things changed quick! Been in enough street races to know that 50lbs difference doesnt make THAT large a gap difference, over half of that was simply rider skill. Good showing and good vid! Want to host a couple of mine that I can't have associated to me? Washington State passed a new law about vids like mine and yours... only has to "appear" to be illegal to be prosecuted for it after the fact. PM if interested. "aZX14blurr" is me on YouTube.
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FullTilt
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posted November 10, 2008 11:03 AM
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learn to use the "embed" feature.
Didn't see it as an option anywhere. Dang frEEKy customized board softwares!
Is it simply [embed], etc.?
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posted November 10, 2008 11:07 AM
cut n paste from YouTube is all you have to do. Look to the right of the video, it says "Imbed" and "link" which you simply RIGHT click on with one click to highlight n hit "copy" option.
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posted November 10, 2008 11:20 AM
any zx12r in the video??
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posted November 10, 2008 12:30 PM
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any zx12r in the video??
?? Whats a zx12r?? Did Kawi used to make that? just kidding! Nope, haven't seen a zx12 on the road since before I got my 14. Guess they didnt sell many of them up here.
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posted November 10, 2008 02:25 PM
just paste the embed code from youtube instead of the url
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NinjaNick
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posted November 10, 2008 02:26 PM
Do people still ride ZX12's? I thought those went out in the 90's? lol
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posted November 10, 2008 02:29 PM
Edited By: NinjaNick on 10 Nov 2008 22:29
I like this comment:
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LMAO @ the worthless fat ass on the right who cant even tuck out of the wind good.
+1
No shit...he was just catching all the wind on his chest! He needs to learn how to ride a sportbike. Lay on the fucking tank and tuck yourself in shithead. I hope someone atleast showed him how to ride fast. 
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johnnnyboy
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posted November 10, 2008 02:49 PM
Im amazed that the OLDER busa did so well against the 14 ?
the end video did make more sense with the 14 pulling away
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posted November 10, 2008 05:42 PM
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Do people still ride ZX12's? I thought those went out in the 90's? lol
I do.... and it would leave your 14 so far behind, you'll end up back in the 90's. =)
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posted November 10, 2008 05:45 PM
+1
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posted November 10, 2008 06:06 PM
Edited By: smokinzx14 on 11 Nov 2008 02:06
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Do people still ride ZX12's? I thought those went out in the 90's? lol
I do.... and it would leave your 14 so far behind, you'll end up back in the 90's. =)
Try that with me in the 1/4 mile PH .... I will be at the finish line and you will still be at the 1/8 mile mark saying what the hell just happened ...  
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posted November 10, 2008 07:52 PM
I just did some roll ons from about 4k in 1st through the middle of 4th friday night with an 08 busa. We're the same size and same skill from a roll " which as far as I'm concerned takes very little skill since you're just tucking and shifting". His bike has a full yosh, pc3, and k&n. Mine has lowering bones on the second hole, and the flies removed. He got the jump, and I immediately caught him and pulled him by about 5 feet in every gear. Given his bike is still loosening up (2500 miles on it) and mine just turned over 9,000. Not all bikes are created equal, and I broke mine in pretty hard.
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FullTilt
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posted November 10, 2008 09:05 PM
I do believe there is in fact a 12 or two on the DVD.
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sj1400
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posted November 10, 2008 10:25 PM
1st race rider error - poor bike has to overcome wind resistance + the weight difference.
2nd race was clean = glad no one got hurt with the unexpected camera laying tin the middle of the road. Excellent footage.
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posted November 11, 2008 05:12 AM
Edited By: shiphteey on 11 Nov 2008 13:13
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Do people still ride ZX12's? I thought those went out in the 90's? lol
I do.... and it would leave your 14 so far behind, you'll end up back in the 90's. =)
Try that with me in the 1/4 mile PH .... I will be at the finish line and you will still be at the 1/8 mile mark saying what the hell just happened ...
Smokin, you're changing the game. The vid consists of roll-ons from an agreed upon low speed up top until its obvious who won. We stayed in it till over 200 mph. I can see by your sig you are quick, a mutual buddy of ours has already vouched for your riding, however this is top end riding, not just a short 1/8 or 1/4. More than likely your first time out you would run short of your potential because your set-up may not be optimal. Motor for motor at, say, the 9/10ths, my money would be on Phantom, not you. Until you do it you don't know if your gearing is wrong, your mapping isn't perfect..hell maybe your bike tankslaps at 193.9 on GPS, etc. Phantom was merely sticking up for the ZX-12 moniker, which the 14 is indebted to in the first place. NinjaNick jokingly poked fun at the 12 and Phantom came in to defend it. Same here, I enjoy topping them out and so far, from what my eyes have seen in the REAL WORLD, UP TOP they are really not that far apart when you let them off the leash and let them rip deep in 6th. That says quite a bit considering their 150+cc difference, but I digress.
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posted November 11, 2008 06:44 AM
a Mustang GT and a VW Jetta aren't that far apart on the big end either. The difference being how far it takes each to get there. You want to make it a real race, run them from a dead stop to the top end like the standing mile races that you compete in. That's where things get interesting.
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posted November 11, 2008 08:30 AM
I'm a big fan of standing start runs, but I think FullTilt realizes that
1) Traction is a big issue with high HP cars and stretched bikes
2) Its easier on clutches
3) It somewhat simulates running someone on the highway where many times these types of speeds are encountered.
From a dig most of the cars get roasted bad on the streets when running against fairly competent riders who don't have a long wheelbase or too much HP....whatever "too much HP" means ;-) I've done it to several 700-800 RWHP supras & vettes...I have to start from higher speeds like 70-80....I try and convince them to start from 140 or so so there is no excuse on their end in terms of traction...then they just sorta look at me funny.
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posted November 11, 2008 08:36 AM
you can make an entire DVD but you still cant figure ou tthat copy/paste of the embed code, eh? 
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NinjaNick
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posted November 11, 2008 09:29 AM
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NinjaNick jokingly poked fun at the 12
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 Good man. You realized I was just having fun and teasing.
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