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posted December 29, 2012 06:00 AM
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RCC Turbo ZX-14
Richard Peppler is building kits for our beloved ZX-14s. This Fantastic News for us zx-14 Boost Lovers.
His First ZX-14 has been completed and is already working on the Second.
Having spent 45 minutes on the phone with Richard yesterday I can tell you Richard is very approachable and is only to happy to help with any and all Questions.
The Quality of his builds is a work of art. Here is a few pics of the 14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=isszqyOgudU
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kawasakijockey
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posted December 29, 2012 08:20 AM
I was just waiting for that blue towel to get sucked into the turbo...
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1badzx14
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posted December 29, 2012 08:25 AM
I will stick with chris jones.........not knocking anyone elses work.... 
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posted December 29, 2012 09:34 AM
I have had several RCC kits on my Hayabusa's in the past and they are wonderful kits with fit and finish beyond compare. I had a stage 1 kit on a 00 Busa with 20K plus street miles and never a problem.
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posted December 29, 2012 10:41 AM
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I have had several RCC kits on my Hayabusa's in the past and they are wonderful kits with fit and finish beyond compare. I had a stage 1 kit on a 00 Busa with 20K plus street miles and never a problem.
I wish he was building these when I was looking. Would have saved me some Major Grief
Amazed,,, 1/2 inch thick polished Plates under blow off & charge tube. See pic. Nothing Cheap in this kit
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Bently
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posted December 29, 2012 12:02 PM
I know RCC's Busa kits are top notch and customer service is as well! Now there's two very good options for turbo 14's
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posted December 29, 2012 12:20 PM
What size turbo is he using?
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posted December 29, 2012 12:40 PM
Pretty sure it was a Garrett 2871.
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posted December 29, 2012 04:17 PM
I don't know much about turbo's but at 6.5psi maxing 259hp isn't that less per psi than what i have seen elsewhere? Im not knocking anyone's work I'm trying to get a baseline of what to expect out of a turbo bike. Someone teach me about what to expect. I have a 12r with 40shot of nos, i just bought a 14r and i just don't see nos on it in my future. I am interested in a turbo for the 14r but i don't drag and i don't ride track. It will just be for the street.
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posted December 29, 2012 04:33 PM
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I don't know much about turbo's but at 6.5psi maxing 259hp isn't that less per psi than what i have seen elsewhere? Im not knocking anyone's work I'm trying to get a baseline of what to expect out of a turbo bike. Someone teach me about what to expect. I have a 12r with 40shot of nos, i just bought a 14r and i just don't see nos on it in my future. I am interested in a turbo for the 14r but i don't drag and i don't ride track. It will just be for the street.
All dynos read different. But that's about the average I'd say for 6-7psi. This is a pump gas tune so who knows how safe they have it
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posted December 29, 2012 05:47 PM
So the turbo's that produce over 300hp what kind are they and how safe are they for longevity? When I'm ready i would need to consider longevity and stability since it will be my do it all road machine. Including touring.
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posted December 29, 2012 06:36 PM
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So the turbo's that produce over 300hp what kind are they and how safe are they for longevity? When I'm ready i would need to consider longevity and stability since it will be my do it all road machine. Including touring.
Any kit on the market will make enough power to bend the stock rods. But you will need good fuel and good tuning for them to last, even at 250hp you can still melt pistons if the tune if off or if you are not using the right fuel.
But it will take about 10psi to hit the 300hp mark on a stock compression motor. And that is WAY to much boost on pump gas built motor or not IMO
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posted December 29, 2012 06:39 PM
Mine made 254hp at 5.5-6lbs so those numbers are about right for 6.5lbs.
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posted December 29, 2012 06:52 PM
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Mine made 254hp at 5.5-6lbs so those numbers are about right for 6.5lbs.
Mine made 260 on 7psi, 330 on 12psi, 384 on 16 psi and the tire would just spin on anything passed 16 lol but we did try 18, im guessing 400-410 lol E85 and a stock motor!!!!!!
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posted December 29, 2012 08:14 PM
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Mine made 254hp at 5.5-6lbs so those numbers are about right for 6.5lbs.
Mine made 260 on 7psi, 330 on 12psi, 384 on 16 psi and the tire would just spin on anything passed 16 lol but we did try 18, im guessing 400-410 lol E85 and a stock motor!!!!!!
18lbs,,,,, wow. I have been running 9lbs on 94 octane pump fuel for the last 10,000 K. I feel my time is short. When snow stops I guess we will find out.
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posted December 29, 2012 08:26 PM
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Mine made 254hp at 5.5-6lbs so those numbers are about right for 6.5lbs.
Mine made 260 on 7psi, 330 on 12psi, 384 on 16 psi and the tire would just spin on anything passed 16 lol but we did try 18, im guessing 400-410 lol E85 and a stock motor!!!!!!
18lbs,,,,, wow. I have been running 9lbs on 94 octane pump fuel for the last 10,000 K. I feel my time is short. When snow stops I guess we will find out.
It was on e85 and was out of injector so it got turned down. It was just for a dyno number it lasted at 12psi for a long time and finally spun a bearing when it ran low on oil one night (cut down pan)
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posted December 29, 2012 08:35 PM
This is great info. So on a stock zx14r engine if i wanted stability and longevity it sounds like anything 5psi and under should be fine. That only gives me about 240hp for the street. While that is nice is it worth the expense and trouble? nos might be more affortable and less risky but than i would always be looking for juice and that isn't easy when out riding around.
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posted December 29, 2012 08:37 PM
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This is great info. So on a stock zx14r engine if i wanted stability and longevity it sounds like anything 5psi and under should be fine. That only gives me about 240hp for the street. While that is nice is it worth the expense and trouble? nos might be more affortable and less risky but than i would always be looking for juice and that isn't easy when out riding around.
Turbos make the most amazing street bikes. My nitrous bikes were quicker but I was always having to fill the bottles. For the street I'd take a turbo any day.
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posted December 29, 2012 11:31 PM
price?
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Romans
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posted December 30, 2012 06:22 AM
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5psi and under should be fine. That only gives me about 240hp for the street.
Where the real fun is located is in the torque. Look at his graph above roughly 110lbs of torque at 5000 RPM. That pull is simply Amazing and you use it Everywhere, Every time you ride. Not just at the Drag strip. For me this is what makes the Turbo 14 the most fun bike I have ever owned. Makes me happy just looking at it lol
Nos I'm sure is fun too, but if your not going wide open throttle, would you spray it ???? If your answer is no maybe give Richard a call. Would love to see more pics
http://www.rccturbos.com/
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Romans
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posted December 30, 2012 06:37 AM
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price?
This is the big question. When I asked he was not sure as there were pricing detail to work out.
If you look at his street Busa kits prices are from 4350 to 6350 depending on Turbo I'm sure.
I for one will pay more for a better Quality kit. I got F-cked so bad last time,,,,, still sore, lesson learned.
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posted December 30, 2012 09:13 AM
I did the home made turbo kit back in 06 on the 14. I sold that kit to 01smokes on here. I have had a bunch of Turbo Busa's but the 14 was a different story. I was plaqued with boost leaks from day one. The biggest and last one to find was under the frame by the steering neck. As it was trial and error I quickly melted the stock pistons ring lands as there is not much there. tried upping the boost and spun the #3 rod bearing twice. Got the high pressure relief valve and never had anymore oiling problems. Went with the shorter rods and turbo pistons and tuned to 389 RWHP.
ran that for a while with good results then parted the bike out. I see that the BEGI 2025 Fuel pressure reg is mounted right where I had mine.
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posted December 30, 2012 10:59 AM
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I did the home made turbo kit back in 06 on the 14. I sold that kit to 01smokes on here. I have had a bunch of Turbo Busa's but the 14 was a different story. I was plaqued with boost leaks from day one. The biggest and last one to find was under the frame by the steering neck. As it was trial and error I quickly melted the stock pistons ring lands as there is not much there. tried upping the boost and spun the #3 rod bearing twice. Got the high pressure relief valve and never had anymore oiling problems. Went with the shorter rods and turbo pistons and tuned to 389 RWHP.
ran that for a while with good results then parted the bike out. I see that the BEGI 2025 Fuel pressure reg is mounted right where I had mine.
I have since pieced 2 more kits together over the years and have gotten good and sealing the air box and making sure the boost leaks are not around. I'd still turbo a gen2 booza or hell even a gen one for that matter. But the 14 just rides so much better than a booza I keep finding my way back to em.
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posted December 30, 2012 11:56 AM
A Gen 1 will be the cheapest to do. I made 500 RWHP on two of my Gen 1 Busa's and had half of what a new 14 cost. As far as turbo bikes go... If you ever get a chance to ride one your normally aspirated bike will never feel strong again. Going 190+ MPH in the 1/4 mile is awesome. The Pull is like a drug.
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posted December 30, 2012 01:00 PM
I like my gen 2 busa for the electronics , the ecu editor boost fuel stuff just maked the setup so much better , and i know the guy doing editor at the moment is working on zx14's,
realy hope he gets them in the program soon and can do boost fuel on the 14 and 14r
Boost is totally addictive
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