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posted December 30, 2012 01:01 PM
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Got the high pressure relief valve and never had anymore oiling problems.
Did you guys have Any issues with 3 hole oil pump end plate???? I see the poor design has followed us over to 2012. Nice, grrrrrr.
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posted December 30, 2012 01:06 PM
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Got the high pressure relief valve and never had anymore oiling problems.
Did you guys have Any issues with 3 hole oil pump end plate???? I see the poor design has followed us over to 2012. Nice, grrrrrr.
Replaced mine with the Muzzy and slowed the leakage there by at least 75%.
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posted December 30, 2012 01:11 PM
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Got the high pressure relief valve and never had anymore oiling problems.
Did you guys have Any issues with 3 hole oil pump end plate???? I see the poor design has followed us over to 2012. Nice, grrrrrr.
Replaced mine with the Muzzy and slowed the leakage there by at least 75%.
Did you use any thing for a gasket maker along with plate or just the plate ?
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posted December 30, 2012 01:26 PM
 Edited By: kawasakijockey on 30 Dec 2012 21:32
I did try the 515 sealant but it didnt hold for me. The Muzzy plate definately made the difference because it is billet and about a half inch thick. The Muzzy and stock plates should have been milled with a groove to where an oring could have been used to seal. I was going to do mine (muzzy) at work but didnt have an end mill small enough.
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posted December 31, 2012 06:50 AM
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I did try the 515 sealant but it didnt hold for me. The Muzzy plate definately made the difference because it is billet and about a half inch thick. The Muzzy and stock plates should have been milled with a groove to where an oring could have been used to seal. I was going to do mine (muzzy) at work but didnt have an end mill small enough.
Great info. Thank You.
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kawpower
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posted December 31, 2012 11:29 AM
Did anyone contact muzzys and ask would there be a problem if u oring the plate, im shure they may have tried it or maybe they didnt.
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kawasakijockey
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posted December 31, 2012 04:53 PM
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Did anyone contact muzzys and ask would there be a problem if u oring the plate, im shure they may have tried it or maybe they didnt.
The case has about a 1/8th inch wide margin that the outer plate seals to. The plate would have to be milled for a 1/16th or maybe a 3/32 inch cross section oring to work. We have done similar things on hydraulic pump case ends in the past. I didnt talk to Muzzy about it. Nobody there really responded to any of my input on other things.
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posted January 05, 2013 12:02 AM
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Mine made 254hp at 5.5-6lbs so those numbers are about right for 6.5lbs.
Mine made 260 on 7psi, 330 on 12psi, 384 on 16 psi and the tire would just spin on anything passed 16 lol but we did try 18, im guessing 400-410 lol E85 and a stock motor!!!!!!
i seen that on youtube just a min ago....so you tellin me theres no aftermarket billet parts in the engine at all and you didnt blow the engine to peices on 16 lbs of boost???? ITs a stock engine and hasnt been torn down at all?
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posted January 05, 2013 12:14 AM
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Mine made 254hp at 5.5-6lbs so those numbers are about right for 6.5lbs.
Mine made 260 on 7psi, 330 on 12psi, 384 on 16 psi and the tire would just spin on anything passed 16 lol but we did try 18, im guessing 400-410 lol E85 and a stock motor!!!!!!
i seen that on youtube just a min ago....so you tellin me theres no aftermarket billet parts in the engine at all and you didnt blow the engine to peices on 16 lbs of boost???? ITs a stock engine and hasnt been torn down at all?
That was on a 100% stock motor, the right fuel and tuning will keep motors alive
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posted January 05, 2013 12:19 AM
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Mine made 254hp at 5.5-6lbs so those numbers are about right for 6.5lbs.
Mine made 260 on 7psi, 330 on 12psi, 384 on 16 psi and the tire would just spin on anything passed 16 lol but we did try 18, im guessing 400-410 lol E85 and a stock motor!!!!!!
i seen that on youtube just a min ago....so you tellin me theres no aftermarket billet parts in the engine at all and you didnt blow the engine to peices on 16 lbs of boost???? ITs a stock engine and hasnt been torn down at all?
That was on a 100% stock motor, the right fuel and tuning will keep motors alive.
The motor did end up letting go, it spun number 3 when i cracked a pan and it lost oil. pulled the motor and put another stock one in and sold the bike
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posted October 27, 2013 12:13 PM
Spent the morning with Richard Peppler Today. Can't say I have ever met a easier man to talk to. While there Richard gave me the shop tour and a chance to look closely at some of these 7 second motorcycles he builds. Wow would be a understatement. There were way to many Turbo systems for me to look over and almost no chance for me personally to comprehend what could be possible with all these great kits. I felt like a kid in a candy store. I'm also sure I may have asked too many questions. This truly was a mind boggling for visit me. I left with a lasting impression and a new found respect for what is possible with these great bikes when a master mechanic gets a hold of them.
Needless to say I left my bike behind.
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posted October 28, 2013 07:00 AM
Supercharging mine this winter bro.
Soon as I have time to put my 06 together I'm crating it off to michigan.
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posted October 28, 2013 07:07 AM
Rick did u leave your ecu editor for him to tune with.
Are you using my rods n pistons studs etc?
Are you ging woth the biggee injectors?
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posted October 28, 2013 07:08 AM
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Supercharging mine this winter bro.
Soon as I have time to put my 06 together I'm crating it off to michigan.
Supercharging ? Building motor first ? I might know of a guy that has rods and pistons brand new still in box lol
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posted October 28, 2013 08:01 AM
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Rick did u leave your ecu editor for him to tune with.
Are you using my rods n pistons studs etc?
Are you ging woth the biggee injectors?
Lyle I left my 2012 R with Richard. I still have not built the motor in the 2010 as of yet. Currently that bike is still working to dame good to break it down. That being said, soon as the 14R is finished I think it will be time for a low compression rebuild and see what she can do. Richard has some really amazing fuel systems of his own design. Looks like I will be using Richards secondary injectors instead of going bigger. Sounds like a much better way to go if I'm going to push over 400hp. Also looks as if my current Turbo not much good after 375. Ugh ! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Never ends. All in Good Fun of course.
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bigwil
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posted October 30, 2013 06:43 PM
Lyle u sending your bike to andy
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posted November 09, 2013 01:12 PM
yes I am Big Will. 
Jones secondary injectors and and my built 06 Motor.
Falicon rods MTC pistons, cooper turbo head with stainless 1mm OS valves , hd valve springs, FBG trans cut both ways, MTC lock up, brocks shift shafts, FP shift star, HV oil pump, dummy shafts no secondaries, welded up frame for NO boost leaks,
He already has my alternator cover to mod.
Im selling my Admas 2" billet pan if anyone is looking.
since Im running a pipe , not a turbo the flat pan wont work.
Its been installed but never used. Like new
I need a stock pan and oil pickup.
I also need an alternator cover. to ship the bike.
The idea of forced induction without lag and seamless linear power curve appeals more to me than lag then the big hit while leaned over in a corner.
Now if I could just get home to piece mine together and ship it to him.
Was supposed to go to him in september, but I work away from home all but 5 days since July1st
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posted November 09, 2013 06:19 PM
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The idea of forced induction without lag and seamless linear power curve appeals more to me than lag then the big hit while leaned over in a corner.
Lyle I was wondering, is this a centrifugal supercharger, if so, they do have lag and won't be providing linear power. If so, where can the gains be found is this kind of set up ? Thinking this is Basically a belt driven turbo as it is not a Roots Style. I'm very interested hoping to learn a bit more for maybe a next time. Set me straight. Any pics ?
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posted November 10, 2013 07:36 AM
yes centrifugal. No lag always on boost, but builds more with rpm of crank. you need to talk to Andy at great lakes racing.
He has it set up. youve seen it here and on the other site.hes running 7.00 in the 1/4 in one season.
Told me its basically ;like driving a monster 2500 cc naturally aspirated motor.
I dont think it has the hit a turbo has, smooth power
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posted November 10, 2013 09:41 AM
Dam Lyle I just bought a Adams pan Andy set me up with a rst turbo can't wait to get it up grading from my old set up took it far as I could with a street kit but I know 2 others getting a Busa and a 2012zx14 supercharged by Andy crazy fast
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posted November 10, 2013 09:46 AM
Not to jack your thread plus one on rcc turbos on nice work
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posted December 15, 2013 02:34 PM
Hello everybody
I would like information for you. I read that you wrote about the new zx14.. i have some question: does some make turbo or supercharger zx14? how much power,money etc?
I would like to use my bike on only street...
I live in Hungary, but hier nobody build new zx14, only busa..
Thanks for your help
Regards Balazs Balog
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posted February 17, 2014 05:23 PM
Edited By: Romans on 18 Feb 2014 03:08
Quick up date. First I got my bike back from RCC and I must tell you I'm very pleased with how the bike Turned out. It is always a pleasure to watch Richard work on the Dyno. Had a great day. Also had the chance to meet a member from here KZscott, which I'm sure some of you may know on this site.
I'm going to run Richards Street Kit(see Pic)for this season (due to the fact the wife wants a fucking horse UGH!) and see what funds become available for stage 3. Baby Steps. As long as I have some boost world is good lol
Pic shows Richard Adjusting The Tune, Scott on Boost
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posted February 17, 2014 07:59 PM
It was nice meeting you Rick! I got a few pics with my phone, but wasnt sure if you would want them posted or not? I think the stock motor will take a little more providing you use water injection or an intercooler is fitted. I dont know if you noticed the setup that was on the busa that was in the dyno room. the tail was off and the tank and pump were visible beside the electronics.
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posted February 18, 2014 04:16 AM
Perfect Scott, would you mind sending me the pictures. These are the only two of the day that I have.
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