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posted December 06, 2012 02:27 PM
 Edited By: cliffrandall on 6 Dec 2012 22:29
Wheelie, you guys are fussy over Pony piss. A 30hp-50hp shot is for pussies on a 200hp bike - its a joke. At this level just get the fucking juice into the airbox ahead of the TB's, I don't care if you build your own system with one simple main jet drilled into the upper chamber of the airbox frame, it'll work just fine and if you want more n2o put a bigger jet in, or wider line!!!.......Now that said, don't wake me up again unless you want to make some real power, like a 100shot. Until then you know your job - run my fucking Fan Club or you're frired!
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posted December 06, 2012 02:57 PM
I had the muzzy that came with the air shifter kit and it dyno the same 40 hp as the jet said I thought it would be safer to run a 4 jet setup over just spraying the box, that said the muzzy made 40 and the mps made 42 so maybe close to apple to apple with that small of a shot.
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posted December 06, 2012 03:04 PM
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I had the muzzy that came with the air shifter kit and it dyno the same 40 hp as the jet said I thought it would be safer to run a 4 jet setup over just spraying the box, that said the muzzy made 40 and the mps made 42 so maybe close to apple to apple with that small of a shot.
Audio, Muzzle and MPS are close to the same hp, but wouldn't the direct 4 nozzle be more accurate than fog?
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posted December 06, 2012 03:08 PM
Edited By: cliffrandall on 6 Dec 2012 23:09
Pull the main jet and add some fuel, you'll see 60hp!
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posted December 06, 2012 03:23 PM
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Wheelie, you guys are fussy over Pony piss. A 30hp-50hp shot is for pussies on a 200hp bike - its a joke. At this level just get the fucking juice into the airbox ahead of the TB's, I don't care if you build your own system with one simple main jet drilled into the upper chamber of the airbox frame, it'll work just fine and if you want more n2o put a bigger jet in, or wider line!!!.......Now that said, don't wake me up again unless you want to make some real power, like a 100shot. Until then you know your job - run my fucking Fan Club or you're frired!
Cliff
Clifford, thanks for clarifying why the Muzzle nos is the best lol, I think Bently has you nailed, spammer! Everything you are doing to your 2013 has been done 7 years ago, so stop making it sound like you are an innovator when you are an imitator ... blah blah blah !!!!
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posted December 06, 2012 04:28 PM
Edited By: cliffrandall on 7 Dec 2012 00:29
Save it for the next guy Wheelie......... Since post #1 you (and your negative posse) have identified yourselves as cyber fuck-up, jealous bastard, nothing more nothing less. Hey I'm calling you out - tell us your real fucking name coward?
This build is without a doubt as innovative and exciting as they come, otherwise it certainly wouldn't have received the glowing international support that it has. So do us all a big favour and crawl back into you hole. When I whistle you can come out.
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posted December 06, 2012 05:20 PM
i hope muzzys spraybar is better than their sidewinder. because their sidewinder is the most restrictive out there. i will stick with the mps or adams.
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posted December 06, 2012 05:37 PM
Edited By: Wheelie on 7 Dec 2012 03:38
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Save it for the next guy Wheelie......... Since post #1 you (and your negative posse) have identified yourselves as cyber fuck-up, jealous bastard, nothing more nothing less. Hey I'm calling you out - tell us your real fucking name coward?
This build is without a doubt as innovative and exciting as they come, otherwise it certainly wouldn't have received the glowing international support that it has. So do us all a big favour and crawl back into you hole. When I whistle you can come out.
Cliff
Clifford, I started this thread for any opinions on a MPS and Adams spray bars, the very first post you are spamming Muzzle saying get it, then it's the best, that doesn't help me with my decision, I'm not buying a Muzzle nos system! I want feedback on MPS and Adams, Thanks
next will be opinions on a Daytona nos controller...
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posted December 06, 2012 10:13 PM
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I had the muzzy that came with the air shifter kit and it dyno the same 40 hp as the jet said I thought it would be safer to run a 4 jet setup over just spraying the box, that said the muzzy made 40 and the mps made 42 so maybe close to apple to apple with that small of a shot.
Audio, Muzzle and MPS are close to the same hp, but wouldn't the direct 4 nozzle be more accurate than fog?
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posted December 07, 2012 12:29 AM
BUY THE ADAMS COMPLETE KIT. THIS IS NOT AN AREA TO TRY AND SAVE A FEW DOLLARS. THEY WORK, TESTED AND PROVEN. FROM SMALL SHOTS TO HUGE. SAME KIT DOES IT ALL. AND GET A "NOS" IN LINE FILTER. MY 2 CENTS
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posted December 07, 2012 02:34 AM
Edited By: Seno on 7 Dec 2012 10:38
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I run a gsx1300r bar on a few different bikes. They work great never had a problem with them at all I've sprayed over 100hp worth of nitrous on some bikes and as little as 30hp worth on others. All the plugs look the same so it's getting the same amount of spray across the 4...
+1, I am running a gsx1300 bar on my 14r....40HP shot. Got it off psychobike forums. The spray bar was an afterthought to my NOS system, originally went with a fogger setup but after doing lots of reading.... Well I wanted even NOS distribution.
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posted December 07, 2012 04:57 AM
Hey Wee, I know you want info about the Muzzy and Adams spray bars so I can't help you with that but I have a dual nozzle Gixx1300R spray bar on my bike. I don't if its better than Muzzy's or Adams but the Gixx1300 spray bar has the nozzle that are directly above the TB's and the nozzles are in the TB a good 1' or more. I can't seem to post a picture of it but I can send a picture to your phone via a text message if you want to see it. You can also go to "Google" and type in "Gixx1300R spray bar" and click on the "images" tab and it will display them. I really like mine and so far haven't had any issues with it. Right now I have a #4 line go to the shower head and plastic lines coming out of the shower head to the spray bar. I want to upgrade to all #4 lines form the shower head to the spray bar but that will have to wait for now.
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posted December 07, 2012 05:53 AM
I am the guy that asked about the spray bars a little while back. What I wanted to know is if there was another one out there besides MPS & Adams. Also, if I would be wasting my money using it on a 40hp shot.
I didn't really get answers, I just got "ADAMS" which is great to know its a quality product if I do purchase it, but doesn't really answer my questions.
Kinda the same thing going on in this thread....LOL
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posted December 07, 2012 12:36 PM
Edited By: Wheelie on 7 Dec 2012 20:38
ok I know what spray bar I'm getting, now about the controller, this is what I'm looking at, http://www.mpsracing.com/products/Daytona/NC2.asp price is fair, and it looks easy to program... NC1
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posted December 07, 2012 12:48 PM
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ok I know what spray bar I'm getting...........................
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Muzzle???
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posted December 07, 2012 12:56 PM
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ok I know what spray bar I'm getting...........................
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posted December 07, 2012 06:06 PM
Lucky, I'm going with the MPS spider, less spaghetti in the airbox than the Adams.
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posted December 07, 2012 06:35 PM
Edited By: cliffrandall on 8 Dec 2012 02:39
Guys.....Check out the Muzzy kit - it's so simply, 2 internal air-box line rod jets (attached via existing box screws) and one nozzel with interchangeable jets for 30,40 or 50hp!! When you're ready, loose the jet completely, go with a #4 line (flows more volume) drill the bar openings out a little and you've got a 100 shot - beautiful!
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posted December 07, 2012 08:39 PM
Nos mini. The nc2 is nice, but requires a PC to make adjustments
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posted December 08, 2012 05:40 AM
Edited By: cliffrandall on 8 Dec 2012 14:05
If 100hp isn't enough, go for 150hp!! Here's how we did it - Drill out the regulator and the solenoid to the width of the #4 line, again race fuel is the key (you need octane), richer map, more powerful fuel pump (flow rate only, PSI stays the same or you're re-mapping the entire curve) and less timing of course......Effectively what we did with my BRP MachZ race sled. 200hp on the motor with a 150 shot.
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posted December 08, 2012 06:20 AM
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Nos mini. The nc2 is nice, but requires a PC to make adjustments
I will be watching my data logger on runs with a laptop, but once my settings are where I want them with the nc1 I wont be messing with the controller.
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posted December 08, 2012 09:37 AM
Cliff, I don't have a dog in this at all but why in the heck do you keep pushing the Muzzy kit when he clearly stated he wasn't interested in it. PLEASE give it a break.
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posted December 08, 2012 12:29 PM
What's with a stickered up snowmobile on the ZX14 site , look's like the fool owner is just full of himself and opperating on other peoples money !
Blowhard should find a canadain websit for that dribbel, has to have someone else do the real wrenching, or bolting on pre made kit's!
Where is pixy john when ya need him?
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posted December 08, 2012 12:57 PM
Edited By: cliffrandall on 8 Dec 2012 21:35
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What's with a stickered up snowmobile on the ZX14 site , look's like the fool owner is just full of himself and opperating on other peoples money !
Blowhard should find a canadain websit for that dribbel, has to have someone else do the real wrenching, or bolting on pre made kit's!
Where is pixy john when ya need him?
Thanks.........Trust me, it's on those sites too!!! besides what else are we suppose to do for the next 6 months?
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posted December 08, 2012 06:21 PM
Adams Spray bars.....enuff said!!!
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