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posted December 05, 2012 01:04 PM
Which Spray Bar and Why?
A thread posted a few days ago ask which one, I would like to know "why"? MPS or Adams?
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cliffrandall
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posted December 05, 2012 02:13 PM
If you want a 'big nuts' 60 shot, go with the Muzzys system.
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posted December 05, 2012 02:21 PM
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If you want a 'big nuts' 60 shot, go with the Muzzys system.
Cliff
"why" go with the Muzzle?
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posted December 05, 2012 02:23 PM
i know this isnt an awnser to your question, but i always go with a wet kit if i ever go over 50 hp. i used to run 100 shot no problems stock engine.
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posted December 05, 2012 02:24 PM
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i know this isnt an awnser to your question, but i always go with a wet kit if i ever go over 50 hp. i used to run 100 shot no problems stock engine.
Not going over 40 for now.
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posted December 05, 2012 03:18 PM
"Why go with Muzzy?" From my experience, they do their homework on everything the sell - it works - (they tested the 14 n2o bar spray pattern, 2 holes proved to work better then 4, when positioned correctly, much to many folks dismay) install is simple and everthing is top quaility. They also explain what will happen if you shot more than a 60hp shot without adding a richer map and race fuel, probably stronge valves as well......Robb Muzzy is Mr. Kawasaki with a 'biblical' reputation and great products.
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posted December 05, 2012 03:24 PM
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"Why go with Muzzy?" From my experience, they do their homework on everything the sell - it works - (they tested the 14 n2o bar spray pattern, 2 holes proved to work better then 4, when positioned correctly, much to many folks dismay) .Robb Muzzy is Mr. Kawasaki with a 'biblical' reputation and great products.
Cliff - a 30 yr user of nothing but the best!
Clifford, you sound a little bias toward Muzzle, if that bar is better than the Adams or MPS I will buy it, if the 2 nozzles work better than 4 why doesn't MPS and Adams copy that design?
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posted December 05, 2012 03:48 PM
Admittedly I am, I love Rob Muzzy and his entire team - no serioulsy, I love him........Here's the deal on a dry shot of juice - just get it into the friggin box and add some fuel, the pressurized atomization spray goes everywhere, it's wild. Then as you get on to it, beef up your valve springs, add more higher octane fuel, and bigger n2o jets - you can add 100hp shot to a stock 14 with a little work - I'll do it.............Lots of experience with this stuff on our race sleds where we run a 150hp shot of dry juice on a 200hp motor.
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posted December 05, 2012 04:04 PM
Cliff if someone else stepped up and gave you nos stuff there's would be the best, sorry but it's obvious your pushing all the companys who gave you products but why would'nt you. If I was buying my own shit the muzzy would be the last kit on my list. over priced for what you get. adams or rc or many others have better spray bars and solinoids. sorry but plenty of us on this site have sprayed plenty of nos thru these 14's.
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posted December 05, 2012 04:32 PM
Best of luck on that under priced stuff!
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posted December 05, 2012 04:37 PM
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.Here's the deal on a dry shot of juice - just get it into the friggin box and add some fuel, the pressurized atomization spray goes everywhere, it's wild. .Lots of experience with this stuff on our race sleds where we run a 150hp shot of dry juice on a 200hp motor.
Cliff
I added the "why" in this thread to get technical info, please explain why a Muzzle fogger is better than a direct line of fire to each throttle body from the 4 nozzle spider bar?
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posted December 05, 2012 04:48 PM
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Best of luck on that under priced stuff!
Cheers,
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No, more like when your done promoting muzzy, try another kit and see how well it works. we understand your friends with him and get stuff free. I buy my stuff and it sure in the hell won't say muzzy on it. you act like when the muzzy twin nozzle sprays it's some kind of magic. go over to psycho bike and ask guys there running in the 6's and low 7's what nos stuff works on these bikes, bet none of them have the muzzy kit. for the street and a 40 shot or maybe a 60 it works fine, for more then that there's alot better stuff out there.
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posted December 05, 2012 05:31 PM
Adams spray bar- hands down. 4 TB's, 4 nozzles-
Real street 14's ridden by JT and RG- proven
Pro street 14 ,Adams built, JT the jockey, ran 7.1's nearly 3 yrs ago- Proven...
....And dry nitrous
Where was Rob Muzzy? Well, his sidewinder was on the bike...
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posted December 05, 2012 05:32 PM
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Best of luck on that under priced stuff!
Cheers,
Clff
No, more like when your done promoting muzzy, try another kit and see how well it works. we understand your friends with him and get stuff free. I buy my stuff and it sure in the hell won't say muzzy on it. you act like when the muzzy twin nozzle sprays it's some kind of magic. go over to psycho bike and ask guys there running in the 6's and low 7's what nos stuff works on these bikes, bet none of them have the muzzy kit. for the street and a 40 shot or maybe a 60 it works fine, for more then that there's alot better stuff out there.
I haven't see. Rob Muzzy at a big dragracing event since 2005. He doesn't support what we do..
And yes his stuff is pricey.
As far as buying "underpriced" stuff from Adams.. Adams has a LOT of bikes at the track across the USA every weekend proving themselves.
How many guys say "Look how fast my Muzzy built motor is going!" (Not many)
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posted December 05, 2012 05:48 PM
I run a gsx1300r bar on a few different bikes. They work great never had a problem with them at all I've sprayed over 100hp worth of nitrous on some bikes and as little as 30hp worth on others. All the plugs look the same so it's getting the same amount of spray across the 4...
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posted December 05, 2012 05:52 PM
Adams has plastic lines inside the airbox, does the MPS?
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posted December 05, 2012 05:53 PM
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Adams has plastic lines inside the airbox, does the MPS?
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No mps does not, well anyway at least the busa kit I put on does not.
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posted December 05, 2012 06:39 PM
 Edited By: cliffrandall on 6 Dec 2012 02:40
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Cliff if someone else stepped up and gave you nos stuff there's would be the best, sorry but it's obvious your pushing all the companys who gave you products but why would'nt you. If I was buying my own shit the muzzy would be the last kit on my list. over priced for what you get. adams or rc or many others have better spray bars and solinoids. sorry but plenty of us on this site have sprayed plenty of nos thru these 14's.
No.........We get lots of requests from others to try their competitive products. I only use the best and I stick with proven champions - for me it's Muzzy!
Cheers,
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posted December 05, 2012 06:40 PM
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Cliff if someone else stepped up and gave you nos stuff there's would be the best, sorry but it's obvious your pushing all the companys who gave you products but why would'nt you. If I was buying my own shit the muzzy would be the last kit on my list. over priced for what you get. adams or rc or many others have better spray bars and solinoids. sorry but plenty of us on this site have sprayed plenty of nos thru these 14's.
No.........We get lots of requests from others to try their competitive products. I only use the best and I stick with proven champions - for me it's Muzzy!
Cheers,
Cliff
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posted December 05, 2012 07:09 PM
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Adams has plastic lines inside the airbox, does the MPS?
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You can get the bar with or without the distribution block and lines. I got the Adams spray bar with the lines and block.. not plastic.
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posted December 05, 2012 07:22 PM
Are all the velocity stacks the same length stock? If not does it matter on the installation on the spray bars?
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posted December 05, 2012 07:44 PM
Ronnie, the MPS bar bolts to the back of the airbox and has no plastic lines. The nitrous supply line does come into the airbox though. I installed one on a friend's 14 and now I own it since he went to a wet kit.
The Muzzy "bar" is merely a single jet that fogs by teeing off to each side of the airbox, nothing more. That is what is installed on the my 14 now.
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posted December 05, 2012 08:42 PM
I like the Adams bar,Ive been 8.0's@170MPH with a stock bottom end and pistons.My bike made 186 on motor with MR12,then 261 with nitrous with 114 octane fuel.
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posted December 05, 2012 09:47 PM
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I have the mps and the dyno-tune if you can bend tubing you can get the dyno-tune kit and save some money they both made the same HP as the pill and its 1/2 the price it is the same just you put it together I havnt tried the adams
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posted December 06, 2012 01:12 PM
Edited By: Wheelie on 6 Dec 2012 21:23
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"Why go with Muzzy?" From my experience, they do their homework on everything the sell - it works - (they tested the 14 n2o bar spray pattern, 2 holes proved to work better then 4, when positioned correctly, much to many folks dismay) install is simple and everthing is top quaility. They also explain what will happen if you shot more than a 60hp shot without adding a richer map and race fuel, probably stronge valves as well......Robb Muzzy is Mr. Kawasaki with a 'biblical' reputation and great products.
Cliff - a 30 yr user of nothing but the best!
Clifford please show Bikeland proof of what you are claiming that the Muzzle nos 2 nozzle is better than Adams or MPS 4 nozzle.. waiting to see and hear what you can prove...
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