speedyme
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posted September 02, 2012 04:57 AM
Is it really nesecery to wait 600 miles before opening her up?
Just bought a new 14r a few days ago traded in my 09 zx14 and I don't think I waited 600 miles
To open that one up and it had over20k miles on it with no problems so do you guys really wait
That many miles? Sure seems overkill to me but I don't want to damage anything maybe I just
Got lucky on my old one I don't know. Thanks
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Seno
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posted September 02, 2012 05:19 AM
Hell no... read this
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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Shane661
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posted September 02, 2012 06:08 AM
I didn't spin mine deep into the red zone until it had about 33 miles on it. Wish I had done it sooner. 
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posted September 02, 2012 06:58 AM
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Hell no... read this
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
what does CNC say?
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Lsantana954
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posted September 02, 2012 07:25 AM
mines went from the dealer str8 to the dyno
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smokinZX14
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posted September 02, 2012 09:18 AM
Dealer = dyno = drag strip ...
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zx12mark
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posted September 02, 2012 09:28 AM
yeah. all you guys know more than the kawasaki engineers.When it breaks down you will just say this is a piece of shit.....
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smokinZX14
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posted September 02, 2012 09:48 AM
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yeah. all you guys know more than the kawasaki engineers.When it breaks down you will just say this is a piece of shit.....
Mark i guess i'm lucky .. my 2006 2009 and my 2012 all got dyno and drag strip break in... All are still running just fine .. I'm not telling you what to do with your bike ..Break them in anyway that makes you feel ok ..
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posted September 02, 2012 10:02 AM
Ride It Like You Stole It!!
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posted September 02, 2012 12:16 PM
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yeah. all you guys know more than the kawasaki engineers.When it breaks down you will just say this is a piece of shit.....
Mark, each to their own.... I have never blown up a bike in the past 15 years and if I did... it certainly would not be Kawasaki's fault.
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posted September 02, 2012 02:06 PM
 Edited By: cliffrandall on 2 Sep 2012 22:08
Road race track day, best break-in you can get anywhere !
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speedyme
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posted September 02, 2012 03:46 PM
okay thanks i goin out tomorrow and opening this thing up! cant wait any longer!
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zx12mark
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posted September 02, 2012 09:58 PM
you guys will never get me to believe that bullshit.You ever heard of the word Temper.Thats exactly why new engines pick up a few more h/p from say 100 miles to 3 to 4000 miles on a dyno. A lot of times 5 h/p.. If you want that engine to last for 50 to 100 k miles take it slow for the first 500 then change the oil and filter.For the next few 100 start to slowly stretch the rpm `s in multiple gears towards redline.Don`t put a heavy torque load on it yet .By 8 to 900 miles bang red line all you want.Take lots of rides where you get to let the engine cool down waiting for the 8 to 900 miles to roll around. The more the better.You are Tempering the metals for years to come................It`s your money.
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zixxer14
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posted September 03, 2012 05:39 AM
You really believe that? Tempering metal requires temperatures way beyond any your motor hopefully ever sees. You gain horsepoweer as internal friction is reduced from polishing of bearing surfaces, pistons, rings, bore etc. as the engine breaks in. That said I also break in engines more slowly than some have posted.
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Audio
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posted September 03, 2012 09:24 AM
Mine had 13 miles on it 1st time a raced it @ the track
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posted September 03, 2012 11:27 AM
I think i got a dud from the factory. its always had a noise when cold from day 1. ran good at 1st, but now seems to be slowing. i could just twist the throttle in 3rd and it would powr wheelie. now it barely does it in first. the oil looked like crap at 500 miles, same at 1000, now at 1500 mile change looks shitty metallic? my old 06 never even discolored the oil. boy i miss that bike. ran fastest pass right b4 the sale. its a good thing i hardly ride it anyways.
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posted September 03, 2012 12:24 PM
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you guys will never get me to believe that bullshit.You ever heard of the word Temper.Thats exactly why new engines pick up a few more h/p from say 100 miles to 3 to 4000 miles on a dyno. A lot of times 5 h/p.. If you want that engine to last for 50 to 100 k miles take it slow for the first 500 then change the oil and filter.For the next few 100 start to slowly stretch the rpm `s in multiple gears towards redline.Don`t put a heavy torque load on it yet .By 8 to 900 miles bang red line all you want.Take lots of rides where you get to let the engine cool down waiting for the 8 to 900 miles to roll around. The more the better.You are Tempering the metals for years to come................It`s your money.
Mark, Do you have any extra of whatever you are smoking? It must be good! Just kidding of course.... Seriously though this is one of the most debated topics, so do whatever you think is right. Personally, I buy a new bike every 3-4 years... That's why I get the 4 year warranty... to beat the shit out of it with no regret or remorse..... Trade it in and get the latest and greatest. Each to their own.
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kaw-rick
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posted September 03, 2012 12:48 PM
just curious. if your bike was down on power what would a warranty help? they dont have a way of determining if it is, and they wouldnt help you if they could. the only way of the dealership to warranty something is if its windowed, or visibly cracked. its really fucked up on that side.
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smokinZX14
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posted September 03, 2012 01:40 PM
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you guys will never get me to believe that bullshit.You ever heard of the word Temper.Thats exactly why new engines pick up a few more h/p from say 100 miles to 3 to 4000 miles on a dyno. A lot of times 5 h/p.. If you want that engine to last for 50 to 100 k miles take it slow for the first 500 then change the oil and filter.For the next few 100 start to slowly stretch the rpm `s in multiple gears towards redline.Don`t put a heavy torque load on it yet .By 8 to 900 miles bang red line all you want.Take lots of rides where you get to let the engine cool down waiting for the 8 to 900 miles to roll around. The more the better.You are Tempering the metals for years to come................It`s your money.
Mark you do know your bike was put on the dyno at the factory ? Well it was and then put in the crate ... There is a Kawi factory video floating around showing them dyno EVERY bike before being crated .. They WOT the Motor to the limiter ..
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posted September 03, 2012 02:14 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 3 Sep 2012 22:15
Youtube Video at the factory ..Every bike gets put on the dyno ..
http://youtu.be/58Aq_tO6_Fs
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posted September 03, 2012 04:38 PM
http://youtu.be/58Aq_tO6_Fs
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Wheelie
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posted September 03, 2012 04:44 PM
I think manufacture breakin procedure may have something to do with safety for the new rider, can you see a breakin procedure telling the new owner to leave the dealership and redline the bike asap for proper breakin?
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chuck a
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posted September 03, 2012 05:36 PM
i waited until my 14 had 200 miles, then i tore it up, just make sure the bike is warm
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posted September 03, 2012 06:03 PM
Edited By: KZScott on 4 Sep 2012 02:04
as long as it has a couple heat cycles up to temp, and fully cools, go ahead and thrash on it IMO. vary the throttle a lot. the track day reference was a good one, another analogy would be to drive it like a harley from bar to bar
never ever beat on a motor unless the oil is hot.
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posted September 03, 2012 10:10 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 4 Sep 2012 07:16
Broke mine in per the manual, and I would do it again.
Kaw, I am open to sponsorship.
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