zx12mark
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posted July 25, 2012 08:06 PM
BUMMER- VOIDS ZX14R WARRANTY
Note: For CLOSED COURSE RACE TRACK USE ONLY! ECU modifications will void your factory warranty. Increased high RPM limits can induce additional strain which could lead to premature engine failure. Please see our Terms and Conditions for additional information: Brock's Performance Terms and Conditions
   
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blue07
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posted July 25, 2012 08:15 PM
 Edited By: blue07 on 26 Jul 2012 04:20
Well...if you have ONLY the 12 month warranty...that's good news.After that...you wouldn't have any recourse anyway....Trying to prove your engine 'blew up' after warranty I would think would be VERY HARD to do.So Brock sharing that at least tells me...use caution when redlining.The redline goes to what,13k?So anything before that is most likely...."acceptable' to Kawasaki....for repair issues anyway.That redline is limited at 11 something...so going to THAT limit is STILL in redline.The factory settings WILL allow the bike to enter redline....and into it.Raising that rpm limiter to,say,11600,that's still well below 13k.Not that that wouldn't possibly create damage...but...it doesn't limit from the factory at 11k and that's it.It will go into redline.By several hundred rpms.I added 200 more to mine...so it limits at I THINK.....well,200 above the factory limiter point.WELL below 12K....I've bounced off that limiter at least a dozen times now riding.Not saying it's okay....but it is a 'race bred' engine.I think she'll handle a bit of limiter bouncing without damage.(I hop)..that limiter comes up AWFULLY FAST....too fast sometimes.
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toledoUPSguy
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posted July 26, 2012 02:44 AM
Edited By: toledoUPSguy on 26 Jul 2012 11:22
Where are you coming up with the 13k number, the face of the tach?
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posted July 26, 2012 03:37 AM
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Where are you coming up with the 13k number, the face of the tach?
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kaw-rick
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posted July 26, 2012 03:42 AM
mark are you gonna run it stock? would be cool to see what numbers you run stock on it.
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blue07
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posted July 26, 2012 05:10 AM
Edited By: blue07 on 26 Jul 2012 13:11
Well...yeah...the face of the tach.Why?11,12,13.Redline.
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zx12mark
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posted July 26, 2012 07:32 AM
hi rick. i plan on making some pass`s on it in the fall when it`s cooler temps.i`ll strap the front and give it hell. that stock exhaust IS coming off and will end up with the pcv and reflash.I wonder if i don`t get the over rev rpm flash if kawasaki would still cover the warranty.i was planning on buying the 4 year extra extension warranty.
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blue07
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posted July 26, 2012 08:01 AM
Edited By: blue07 on 26 Jul 2012 16:02
Maybe buy another stock ECU?Course...that won't save ya if yer motor blows...and ya try to use a replacement factory ecu to try and 'trick em'...your bike is already coded from Kawasaki(with your ecu).They WILL ask for the ECU for an engine replacement.(won't they?)
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drewzx-14
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posted July 26, 2012 10:38 AM
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Maybe buy another stock ECU?Course...that won't save ya if yer motor blows...and ya try to use a replacement factory ecu to try and 'trick em'...your bike is already coded from Kawasaki(with your ecu).They WILL ask for the ECU for an engine replacement.(won't they?)
Is that true?
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blue07
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posted July 26, 2012 10:47 AM
Edited By: blue07 on 26 Jul 2012 18:49
Well...if I were Kawasaki...and needed to access your particular motorcycle for 'black box' info...then...yeah....it would be true.And yeah...it IS true...every new owner of a new 14 has their bike..and all it's ECU deals on file.You can't get around that.They'll know if that's the original ECU or not.And if it isn't....you can kiss yer warranty bye bye.(if it's not factory failure related)..unless....you have the ORIGINAL..."reflashed' back to factory.BUT....I would imagine they already thought of that...so that MAY not be possible....You KNOW they knew this 'flashing thing' was gonna be a big deal for new owners.And there's most likely gonna be some somewhere that end up...well....'exploding' because of this.If they can engineer an ecu and all...I'm pretty sure they have a code somewhere in there that flags a messed with ecu...even if it's been reflashed to factory.
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blue07
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posted July 26, 2012 11:01 AM
Edited By: blue07 on 26 Jul 2012 19:04
I should probably clarify my statements.I honestly DO NOT KNOW if they can tell or not.I would 'think' they could...because of the scan code every new bike gets as it passes the dyno and all.Whether they could somehow...'connect the dots' by having a different ECU in there to 'cover up' possibly something not okay...IDK.Maybe.I would think they do...for that very reason....warranty claims....real ones and 'false' ones.That ECU hasn't been fully 'opened' yet...may never be.Who knows what they have in there to cover themselves?I have a factory new ECU in mine.I also have the original ECU...flashed.With the Final plant scanbar on there.The other has no scanbar.If I blew my engine with the flashed ECU...then tried to use that factory one to say..."this was in here all the time"...I think they could go in and see exactly what happened when.Naturally...if certain parameters weren't recorded,yet I had this particular type of damage...they could tell something wasn't on the level.IF that's a capability of the ECU...to record running files as you own the bike.It records Error codes....I don't see why it couldn't record particular incidents of 'problems' or whatever.But I really don't know.
I guess...I just need to stay out of redline!Hard as that is with THIS baby....Geez it comes up fast!!!
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blue07
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posted July 26, 2012 11:09 AM
I think it's very cool that Brock even mentions this.Shows he's lookin out for us....the potential anyway of blowin yer bike up....most guys wouldn't even say that.....scare people off.Very cool.Thanks Brock!
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Creepy847
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posted July 26, 2012 12:17 PM
Edited By: Creepy847 on 26 Jul 2012 20:40
Ive been told that its probably not something they can do now if its flashed back to stock.
Creeps.
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