cas15
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posted May 02, 2012 04:26 PM
custom maps
Is it worth getting a custom map or are brock maps pretty much done up
   
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eklipse636
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posted May 02, 2012 04:27 PM
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Goldwingmann
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posted May 02, 2012 04:44 PM
Get Brock map and don't worry about another thing!
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Goldwingmann
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posted May 02, 2012 04:45 PM
Get Brock map and don't worry about another thing!
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justoyz2
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Justoyz Racing
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posted May 03, 2012 01:33 AM
Brock's map are very good, but all maps are only spot on, when the conditions they were created in exisits. This is why somedays your bike will run very good numbers and somedays it will not. The weather plays a vital part in the tuning of any bike.....
I suggest get the Brock maps and use them as a very good starting point... but IMO additional tunning is required for best conditions performance... It all depends on your perfection level
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Brock
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posted May 03, 2012 11:10 AM
Here's my 2 cents on the situation: How can Brock’s Performance maps be so close?/Can a Brock’s Track map work better than a custom tune?
We see it all of the time. Someone tells our customer to get a custom tune - they spend $200-$350, head out to the track and GO SLOWER. They put our track map in, and speed right back up again.
I'm not saying that we are god's gift... I am saying that after 30 years in this industry, we have a pretty good handle on what we can and can't do. Of course, if you have a custom engine, YOU MUST have a custom map for maximum performance - but if your engine is stock, we are on the same page and I can actually do a BETTER job than the factory using a Power Commander. It's true, I have 250 RPM increments to work with and I don't have to worry about emissions.
Brock
www.BrocksPerformance.com
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Shane661
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posted May 03, 2012 11:57 AM
If you have a stock motor and Brock's exhaust it is hard to beat their maps. A tuner once made more than 50 pulls on one of my bikes and it ran slower than it did with the Brock's map....I learned a little something that day. 
Shane
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BlackMagic14
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posted May 03, 2012 12:18 PM
Brock's Maps are spot on. I sure in some areas where there is an extremes difference in weather it could be worth it but in Arkansas I have had countless dyno runs and track time and my tuner has yet to improve on Brocks map for
Performance. He has made some minor adjustments in the lower end and smoothed things out a tiny bit but damn sure not 300 dollars worth. I look forward to getting the 2012 "Brocked" out to do some testing on it
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Lsantana954
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posted May 09, 2012 01:45 PM
the maps are pretty much right on but at the end of the day its all on what you trying to do and if you really want to squeeze every bit of power from the bike, and of course how much money youre willing to spend. with that being said when i had mines dyno with the PCV and brocks street map Cecil up in HTP Performance in Richmond was able to tweek the map and get an additional 9 horses out of it.
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'07 Acura TL-S
'87 Buick Grand National
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Shane661
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posted May 09, 2012 02:38 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 9 May 2012 22:42
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the maps are pretty much right on but at the end of the day its all on what you trying to do and if you really want to squeeze every bit of power from the bike, and of course how much money youre willing to spend. with that being said when i had mines dyno with the PCV and brocks street map Cecil up in HTP Performance in Richmond was able to tweek the map and get an additional 9 horses out of it.
On pump gas? I'd like to see those before and after charts...including afr and run conditions...and of course, your setup details.
Cecil's dyno is known to be very "pleasant", and he is also known as a very good tuner. He doesn't use a Dynojet dyno, and Dynojet's are the industry standard....
I am in the same general geographical area, and have never seen anything on a Brock's map that would allow for a 9 hp (!!!!) increase...on pump or race fuel.
Shane
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Wheelie
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Old Man
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posted May 09, 2012 02:55 PM
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the maps are pretty much right on but at the end of the day its all on what you trying to do and if you really want to squeeze every bit of power from the bike, and of course how much money youre willing to spend. with that being said when i had mines dyno with the PCV and brocks street map Cecil up in HTP Performance in Richmond was able to tweek the map and get an additional 9 horses out of it.
let me try that map this weekend, I can let you know if it's any hp above Brocks map.
wee
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Lsantana954
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posted May 09, 2012 03:34 PM
Edited By: Lsantana954 on 9 May 2012 23:37
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quote:
the maps are pretty much right on but at the end of the day its all on what you trying to do and if you really want to squeeze every bit of power from the bike, and of course how much money youre willing to spend. with that being said when i had mines dyno with the PCV and brocks street map Cecil up in HTP Performance in Richmond was able to tweek the map and get an additional 9 horses out of it.
On pump gas? I'd like to see those before and after charts...including afr and run conditions...and of course, your setup details.
Cecil's dyno is known to be very "pleasant", and he is also known as a very good tuner. He doesn't use a Dynojet dyno, and Dynojet's are the industry standard....
I am in the same general geographical area, and have never seen anything on a Brock's map that would allow for a 9 hp (!!!!) increase...on pump or race fuel.
Shane
Yes it was on pump gas.
Here is the post i thought i had the sheet with the base number before he tweeked it but i can get that, once i do ill post it.
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=66605
sorry bout the confusion it was 7 extra horses he was able to get out of it not 9
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'07 Acura TL-S
'87 Buick Grand National
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Audioboyz
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posted May 09, 2012 04:43 PM
Edited By: Audioboyz on 10 May 2012 00:44
Mabe some of us are looking for power in the whole range.Not just a top end monster.My computer crashed and I lost all my maps.Tried to get into Brocks map help but I couldn't remember my original password.Oh well.I do still have the street map.
Craig
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Brocks Alienhead,PCV, flys out,LSL Riser kit,-1 front sprocket,43 Vortex rear sprocket,K&N Air Filter, Zero Gravity tall smoked screen,block off plates,175HP 104 torque
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