Goldwingmann
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posted March 26, 2012 12:42 PM
Power Commander 5 prices...?
I have an internet price of $284.00 for the new PC 5 for the 2012 ZX14r, can anyone get a better pricing....if so where?
  
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Wheelie
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posted March 26, 2012 12:48 PM
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I have an internet price of $284.00 for the new PC 5 for the 2012 ZX14r, can anyone get a better pricing....if so where?
That's a good price, do they have them in stock?
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Goldwingmann
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posted March 26, 2012 01:39 PM
I just called....delivery April 15..........284.00...More Power...888-438-3939, no sales tax, free shipping.....so that sounds pretty reasonable to me....Brock with discount is 353.94, with 20.94 shipping charges, included in above pricing.
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Brock
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posted March 26, 2012 01:48 PM
Brock's mapping goes to 12K RPMs to work with an extended ECU... cheap stuff only goes to 11K.
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Bently
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posted March 26, 2012 02:10 PM
So there's a cheaper version of the pwr comander 5?
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zx12mark
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posted March 26, 2012 02:37 PM
Brock remember your dealing with a 16 year old as in goldwingmann.
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Goldwingmann
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posted March 26, 2012 02:39 PM
Well then I will have to have the Brock map and get the best for a few dollars more and be much happier..thanks for that info!
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posted March 26, 2012 02:46 PM
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Brock remember your dealing with a 16 year old as in goldwingmann.
goldwingmann only posted pricing, bently wants to find out about the cheaper version of the pcv, maybe you can help him with that.
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BlackMagic14
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posted March 26, 2012 02:48 PM
I think fuel moto has them for 279. If you bought your pipe from Brock you still get his map even if you didn't buy the PC from him. I think?
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Bently
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posted March 26, 2012 03:28 PM
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Brock remember your dealing with a 16 year old as in goldwingmann.
goldwingmann only posted pricing, bently wants to find out about the cheaper version of the pcv, maybe you can help him with that.
wee
Just trying to have Brock clear up if there is actually two different pcv's or just one? some guys will have there bike custom tuned but if Brock has a special pcv that goes 1000 rpms higher some guys might want to know that. if it's just his map then some may get it somewhere else and have there tuner tune it to 12000 rpms. His post just wasn't clear to me as goldwinman posted about a pcv price and brock called it cheap.
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Viper
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posted March 26, 2012 03:33 PM
There is one PC V for the 14r. Brocks map along with the extended ecu will go to a higher rpm
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Goldwingmann
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posted March 26, 2012 03:39 PM
Doesn't the ECU mod just add another 500 rpm to the top end and let the motor rev a bit higher for about 375.00? The PC is another 285.00 to $353.00 on top of the ECU, so we are talking ab out the electronic upgrades of about $725.00 total.....is that a good ball park figure for these two electronic boxes?
About how much HP do these two mods together give the Brock piped ZX14r?
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Bently
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posted March 26, 2012 03:40 PM
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There is one PC V for the 14r. Brocks map along with the extended ecu will go to a higher rpm
Well Brocks post sure makes it sound like a pcv bought else where is a cheap one, goldwingmann said nothing about mapping. thought maybe Brock had dynojet make him a special pcv that could not be bought elsewhere. reason I wonder is in the past I always bought my pwr comander else where and still used Brocks maps because I bought his exhaust.
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Viper
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posted March 26, 2012 04:39 PM
The Ecu flash can up the rev where ever you want it, it also takes the 186 speed limiter off and adds timing and opens the flies earlier.
I bought my PC V from Dynojet and I will be using Brocks maps
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Goldwingmann
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posted March 26, 2012 04:48 PM
 Edited By: Goldwingmann on 27 Mar 2012 00:50
I was thinking of removing my flies over this weekend..as Brock recommends them to be removed as opposed to leaving them stock. I don't think I will ever get to see the 186 mph on my speedo, as there aren't many roads here in Central Florida that allow running that speed and a safe shut down area.
I would like the idea of no restrictions on the stock factory speedo.....I will probably never need it, but just like owning a .44 Magnum...nice to know it is there!
I am not planning on racing this bike, I already know what speed capabilities that are built into it from the factory. I just want to have a fully capable bike and be able to run it up once in a while to feel that great power...!
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zx12mark
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posted March 26, 2012 05:32 PM
for the most part your dealing with programming....down loading firmware into a module.parameters will be changed one way or another.this is where the r & d comes in that brock and others research.you could try for a year and still not get it as good as these guys.you may still want to get a custom map made using brocks as the starting point...remember time is money and research hopefully gets recouped on the back side.support brock cause he`s got us covered. getum while they are hot................
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Goldwingmann
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posted March 26, 2012 05:38 PM
I plan on using Brock mapping since it comes with my pipe....he is the authority in making his pipes make HP and that is what we all want here. I don't think we could improve on his mapping at the local level cause most guys on a dyno don't know what they are doing, so you would get less than satisfactory results at the home level.
Brock squeezes every ounce of HP out of his PC's for all of us to enjoy..and there is no need to try to re-invent the wheel...when he is driving......!
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Bently
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posted March 26, 2012 06:13 PM
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I plan on using Brock mapping since it comes with my pipe....he is the authority in making his pipes make HP and that is what we all want here. I don't think we could improve on his mapping at the local level cause most guys on a dyno don't know what they are doing, so you would get less than satisfactory results at the home level.
Brock squeezes every ounce of HP out of his PC's for all of us to enjoy..and there is no need to try to re-invent the wheel...when he is driving......!
Your right I have always run Brocks maps because no one close to me can tune
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Wheelie
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posted March 26, 2012 06:15 PM
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I plan on using Brock mapping since it comes with my pipe....he is the authority in making his pipes make HP and that is what we all want here. I don't think we could improve on his mapping at the local level cause most guys on a dyno don't know what they are doing, so you would get less than satisfactory results at the home level.
Brock squeezes every ounce of HP out of his PC's for all of us to enjoy..and there is no need to try to re-invent the wheel...when he is driving......!
Your right I have always run Brocks maps because no one close to me can tune
I thought you bought a $50 Jeffo map?
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posted March 26, 2012 06:16 PM
DEPUTY GREG all over again .. corner the market
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Bently
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posted March 27, 2012 02:59 AM
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I plan on using Brock mapping since it comes with my pipe....he is the authority in making his pipes make HP and that is what we all want here. I don't think we could improve on his mapping at the local level cause most guys on a dyno don't know what they are doing, so you would get less than satisfactory results at the home level.
Brock squeezes every ounce of HP out of his PC's for all of us to enjoy..and there is no need to try to re-invent the wheel...when he is driving......!
Your right I have always run Brocks maps because no one close to me can tune
I thought you bought a $50 Jeffo map?
wee
I take it thats someone from Texas that tunes bikes and sets up clutch mods? never heard of him.if that's what you had in your 09 you should for sure add it to your 12!
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mma-tv
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posted March 27, 2012 03:23 AM
I'm buying one local (20 miles away) from MDRacing for $287.
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shawnski
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posted March 27, 2012 03:33 AM
Goldwingmann, i like to see a picture of your ZX14r since u lowered it... Any chance of pictures?? Don' t tell us u don't have a camera..
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posted March 27, 2012 05:44 AM
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I take it thats someone from Texas that tunes bikes and sets up clutch mods? never heard of him.if that's what you had in your 09 you should for sure add it to your 12!
Never heard of Jeffo, oh my! You just send him $50 and tell him about your bike and he magically makes a map for you, voilà!
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=54436
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Wheelie
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posted March 27, 2012 07:33 AM
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I plan on using Brock mapping since it comes with my pipe....he is the authority in making his pipes make HP and that is what we all want here. I don't think we could improve on his mapping at the local level cause most guys on a dyno don't know what they are doing, so you would get less than satisfactory results at the home level.
Brock squeezes every ounce of HP out of his PC's for all of us to enjoy..and there is no need to try to re-invent the wheel...when he is driving......!
Your right I have always run Brocks maps because no one close to me can tune
I thought you bought a $50 Jeffo map?
wee
I take it thats someone from Texas that tunes bikes and sets up clutch mods? never heard of him.if that's what you had in your 09 you should for sure add it to your 12!
Jeffo fo shizzle
wee
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