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posted March 09, 2012 07:57 AM
I can't speak for anyone else, but ky experience with mr12 is not good. I wasted $130 at the manufactures cup in November. Tested all day Friday with it, trying every map Brock had. Picked up better et with pump gas
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posted March 09, 2012 07:58 AM
 Edited By: JZX on 9 Mar 2012 16:14
By looking at JT's time slip and the fact that the BMW was slower by .01 in the 8th mile and was only quicker in the back half by .o8 yet trapped the same mph as Lee's bike does (161 mph) should tell you something- the wheel spin in 4 th and 5 th gear Lee had is the only reason the BMW had a better ET.
Add MR12 like the BMW had in the tank.
Add a map with Power Commander
add <<0 oil from Brock's
add a DA from 1600 down to 1200
Add good track prep
Subtract JT's super fly weight from Lee's flyweight weight
I rode a beemer at the track and the foot shifting without using the clutch or blipping the throttle is every bit as quick as the air shifter I use on my 14, so that shift assist works.
Edit: I used MR12 also and didnt go quicker or faster, so I guess its luck of the draw on what pail you end up with,but it seems to always work for brock and most of the pros..
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posted March 09, 2012 08:06 AM
If the 14r was as light as the Beemer is would be running 8.44's.
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1badzx12r
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posted March 09, 2012 08:27 AM
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If the 14r was as light as the Beemer is would be running 8.44's.
and if the space shuttle had bigger fuel tanks ...we could go to mars.. but fact is the bmw ran 8.44's and the zx14r is still with 8.50's .. and the space program needs funding
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RICH CRAFT 1
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posted March 09, 2012 08:39 AM
I have never run MR 12, because it's not a good nitrous fuel. And the price at $25 a gallon compared to three dollars a pound of nitrous, didn't make good sense for me seeing they both add oxygen to the cylinder. but if you want to play with the same numbers they are using. You have to use the same equipment. Bocks said he got 6 hp out of the MR 12. Add that 6 hp to the ET that Lee is running now. It would probably be in the 8.45 range, take another 20 pounds off for JT's weight. Probably in the 8.35 range.
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posted March 09, 2012 09:14 AM
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I have never run MR 12, because it's not a good nitrous fuel. And the price at $25 a gallon compared to three dollars a pound of nitrous, didn't make good sense for me seeing they both add oxygen to the cylinder. but if you want to play with the same numbers they are using. You have to use the same equipment. Bocks said he got 6 hp out of the MR 12. Add that 6 hp to the ET that Lee is running now. It would probably be in the 8.45 range, take another 20 pounds off for JT's weight. Probably in the 8.35 range.
Ken
living in fantasy land and reality are 2 different ways of life too.. i prefer reality what the time slip shows after a run .. the other is a good sales pitch nothing else cause it never happen .. like dreaming ..it sure felt good while you was asleep .. but then you woke up and discovered your 50 and not 16 years old
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posted March 09, 2012 10:01 AM
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I have never run MR 12, because it's not a good nitrous fuel. And the price at $25 a gallon compared to three dollars a pound of nitrous, didn't make good sense for me seeing they both add oxygen to the cylinder. but if you want to play with the same numbers they are using. You have to use the same equipment. Bocks said he got 6 hp out of the MR 12. Add that 6 hp to the ET that Lee is running now. It would probably be in the 8.45 range, take another 20 pounds off for JT's weight. Probably in the 8.35 range.
Ken
living in fantasy land and reality are 2 different ways of life too.. i prefer reality what the time slip shows after a run .. the other is a good sales pitch nothing else cause it never happen .. like dreaming ..it sure felt good while you was asleep .. but then you woke up and discovered your 50 and not 16 years old
yes, and if you go to bed ugly, you'll probably wake up ugly. Here is a fact. Just posted at the gator nationals. Right Lane: Eddie Krawiec Runs 6.863/197.54, Now #1 Pro Stock motorcycle
so with that fact in mind that Harleys are faster, next time I pull up to a red light beside one, should I be worried about him? he might be running MR 12 LOL
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SteddyTeddy
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posted March 09, 2012 10:48 AM
You should be worried if he's running one of those monster 2600cc motors! LOL
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posted March 09, 2012 12:04 PM
Richcraft .. fact them harley guys now got a 6.863 run slip.. you zx14 guys don't .. maybe 1/8th mile but i wouldn't brag..
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posted March 09, 2012 12:54 PM
It's not a Harley motor.
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posted March 09, 2012 01:39 PM
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Richcraft .. fact them harley guys now got a 6.863 run slip.. you zx14 guys don't .. maybe 1/8th mile but i wouldn't brag..
what do you mean, "you ZX14 guys" lol. if you just want to throw ET numbers out there JT has run well into the sevens on a real street zx14 . but if you want real apples to apples comparison. I don't see a faster production bike out there.
Nolan Ryan said, "it ain't bragging if you can do it".
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posted March 09, 2012 01:48 PM
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Richcraft .. fact them harley guys now got a 6.863 run slip.. you zx14 guys don't .. maybe 1/8th mile but i wouldn't brag..
what do you mean, "you ZX14 guys" lol. if you just want to throw ET numbers out there JT has run well into the sevens on a real street zx14 . but if you want real apples to apples comparison. I don't see a faster production bike out there.
Nolan Ryan said, "it ain't bragging if you can do it".
Ken
hehehe.. he must have sold his zx14... i should say the same thing myself..
looking for a used slow buza??? anyone?? LOL
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posted March 09, 2012 01:56 PM
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Richcraft .. fact them harley guys now got a 6.863 run slip.. you zx14 guys don't .. maybe 1/8th mile but i wouldn't brag..
what do you mean, "you ZX14 guys" lol. if you just want to throw ET numbers out there JT has run well into the sevens on a real street zx14 . but if you want real apples to apples comparison. I don't see a faster production bike out there.
Nolan Ryan said, "it ain't bragging if you can do it".
Ken
WELL WHEN Y'ALL GONNA DO IT .. The harley guys got a 6.86 .. do y'all have 1 those 1/4 mile slips.. zx14 guys HAVE BECOME all talk and no go
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posted March 09, 2012 01:56 PM
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Richcraft .. fact them harley guys now got a 6.863 run slip.. you zx14 guys don't .. maybe 1/8th mile but i wouldn't brag..
what do you mean, "you ZX14 guys" lol. if you just want to throw ET numbers out there JT has run well into the sevens on a real street zx14 . but if you want real apples to apples comparison. I don't see a faster production bike out there.
Nolan Ryan said, "it ain't bragging if you can do it".
Ken
hehehe.. he must have sold his zx14... i should say the same thing myself..
looking for a used slow buza??? anyone?? LOL
you really ought to be careful about posting stuff like that. Your PM box will be full of people trying to move them old busa. lol
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posted March 09, 2012 01:57 PM
So 1bad wants to see my ZX14R beat Brocks BMW .. Well as soon as 1bad buys me a set of BSTs wheels , Brocks 5 pound front axle, Brocks CT pipe and tosses in a P/C and race map for MR12 i'll be happy to give it a shot .. Oh yes i allmost forget 1 bad will have to cut all my Orings out of my chain like the BMW .. 
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posted March 09, 2012 01:59 PM
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So 1bad wants to see my ZX14R beat Brocks BMW .. Well as soon as 1bad buys me a set of BSTs wheels , Brocks 5 pound front axle, Brocks CT pipe and tosses in a P/C and race map for MR12 i'll be happy to give it a shot .. Oh yes i allmost forget 1 bad will have to cut all my Orings out of my chain like the BMW ..
BUT DON'T YOU OWN THE FASTEST PRODUCTION BIKE OF ALL TIME ..or the next to fastest production bike ..
it doesn't matter what the other bike had ..they got an 8.44 time slip stock motor
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posted March 09, 2012 02:11 PM
it doesn't matter what the other bike had ..they got an 8.44 time slip stock motor
There are some gin one 14 with stock motors running 830s. What does that prove?
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posted March 09, 2012 02:15 PM
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So 1bad wants to see my ZX14R beat Brocks BMW .. Well as soon as 1bad buys me a set of BSTs wheels , Brocks 5 pound front axle, Brocks CT pipe and tosses in a P/C and race map for MR12 i'll be happy to give it a shot .. Oh yes i allmost forget 1 bad will have to cut all my Orings out of my chain like the BMW ..
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posted March 09, 2012 02:23 PM
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it doesn't matter what the other bike had ..they got an 8.44 time slip stock motor
There are some gin one 14 with stock motors running 830s. What does that prove?
well then why ain't those gen 1 zx14's the stock motor record holders ...all you guys do is look for excuses why y'all can't do it and what if's .. while the busa guys and bmw keep setting new standards ...
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posted March 09, 2012 02:30 PM
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So 1bad wants to see my ZX14R beat Brocks BMW .. Well as soon as 1bad buys me a set of BSTs wheels , Brocks 5 pound front axle, Brocks CT pipe and tosses in a P/C and race map for MR12 i'll be happy to give it a shot .. Oh yes i allmost forget 1 bad will have to cut all my Orings out of my chain like the BMW ..
BUT DON'T YOU OWN THE FASTEST PRODUCTION BIKE OF ALL TIME ..or the next to fastest production bike ..
it doesn't matter what the other bike had ..they got an 8.44 time slip stock motor
why not compare Smokins 2012 with his 2009? and let Brock compare his BMW with his ZX14r?
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posted March 09, 2012 02:34 PM
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it doesn't matter what the other bike had ..they got an 8.44 time slip stock motor
There are some gin one 14 with stock motors running 830s. What does that prove?
well then why ain't those gen 1 zx14's the stock motor record holders ...all you guys do is look for excuses why y'all can't do it and what if's .. while the busa guys and bmw keep setting new standards ...
if you count all the ZX 14 record holders in real street and super sport. You will find that they are more than its competitors. I don't ever remember the BMW setting a record ?
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1badzx12r
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posted March 09, 2012 02:37 PM
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So 1bad wants to see my ZX14R beat Brocks BMW .. Well as soon as 1bad buys me a set of BSTs wheels , Brocks 5 pound front axle, Brocks CT pipe and tosses in a P/C and race map for MR12 i'll be happy to give it a shot .. Oh yes i allmost forget 1 bad will have to cut all my Orings out of my chain like the BMW ..
BUT DON'T YOU OWN THE FASTEST PRODUCTION BIKE OF ALL TIME ..or the next to fastest production bike ..
it doesn't matter what the other bike had ..they got an 8.44 time slip stock motor
why not compare Smokins 2012 with his 2009? and let Brock compare his BMW with his ZX14r?
wee
nobody cares about that 2012 to 2009 now ..that was back in stock form everybody wanted to know that .. does brock even own a zx14r yet
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posted March 09, 2012 02:39 PM
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it doesn't matter what the other bike had ..they got an 8.44 time slip stock motor
There are some gin one 14 with stock motors running 830s. What does that prove?
well then why ain't those gen 1 zx14's the stock motor record holders ...all you guys do is look for excuses why y'all can't do it and what if's .. while the busa guys and bmw keep setting new standards ...
All you guys ? Again you don't read my posts ... I'm trying to better my own numbers ..
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posted March 09, 2012 02:39 PM
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if you count all the ZX 14 record holders in real street and super sport. Ken
show me these records you speak of
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posted March 09, 2012 02:40 PM
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it doesn't matter what the other bike had ..they got an 8.44 time slip stock motor
There are some gin one 14 with stock motors running 830s. What does that prove?
well then why ain't those gen 1 zx14's the stock motor record holders ...all you guys do is look for excuses why y'all can't do it and what if's .. while the busa guys and bmw keep setting new standards ...
Brock has a zx14r that JT is going to pilot when he gets it all done up proper....8.20'.s
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