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posted March 01, 2012 11:11 AM
I've got ceramics in both wheels, alternator, and transmission bearings. They become an addiction like Ti bolts or carbon fiber parts. You just have to have them. LOL
  
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posted March 01, 2012 11:17 AM
Smokin'
I battled the "dragging pads" thing on my Zx12, found that removing the dust seals solved it, but even on a race only bike, i wasn't really comfortable with the set up.
Then I got hooked up with Thomas Miceli (yup, THAT Miceli)
He does a magic lil mod to the calipers which gives zero drag even with the dust seals in place. costs about $50/caliper.
Thomas (or Tommy) Miceli 609 528 9466 cell # is 917-669-9164
I'm interested in the above?? Any feed back on the brake mods
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posted March 01, 2012 02:15 PM
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Smokin'
I battled the "dragging pads" thing on my Zx12, found that removing the dust seals solved it, but even on a race only bike, i wasn't really comfortable with the set up.
Then I got hooked up with Thomas Miceli (yup, THAT Miceli)
He does a magic lil mod to the calipers which gives zero drag even with the dust seals in place. costs about $50/caliper.
Thomas (or Tommy) Miceli 609 528 9466 cell # is 917-669-9164
I'm interested in the above?? Any feed back on the brake mods
I did my 12 calipers with Tommy, worked perfectly
Also had both my busas are done by him, NO DRAGGING WHATSOEVER 
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posted March 01, 2012 03:54 PM
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Smokin'
I battled the "dragging pads" thing on my Zx12, found that removing the dust seals solved it, but even on a race only bike, i wasn't really comfortable with the set up.
Then I got hooked up with Thomas Miceli (yup, THAT Miceli)
He does a magic lil mod to the calipers which gives zero drag even with the dust seals in place. costs about $50/caliper.
Thomas (or Tommy) Miceli 609 528 9466 cell # is 917-669-9164
I'm interested in the above?? Any feed back on the brake mods
I did my 12 calipers with Tommy, worked perfectly
Also had both my busas are done by him, NO DRAGGING WHATSOEVER
entropy
What have you LSR guys found to be the best chain lube for the least fiction ?
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posted March 01, 2012 05:01 PM
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I've got ceramics in both wheels, alternator, and transmission bearings. They become an addiction like Ti bolts or carbon fiber parts. You just have to have them. LOL
2nd, All my bikes have them. Sickness ?
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posted March 01, 2012 05:03 PM
correction...I don't SELL anything. I do work for a bearing manufacturer, but in field service.
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posted March 01, 2012 05:21 PM
I am very interested in seeing how these bearings perform. I am probably the slowest bike on this site so anything I can do to help the bike go quicker, I am all for it. Thanks Lee for all your testing and posting of the mods you do to the 14.
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posted March 01, 2012 05:33 PM
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correction...I don't SELL anything. I do work for a bearing manufacturer, but in field service.
Sorry , Teddy just said you had something to do with bearings .. I didn't know if it was sales or what ..
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posted March 01, 2012 07:08 PM
He does a magic lil mod to the calipers which gives zero drag even with the dust seals in place. costs about $50/caliper.
Thomas (or Tommy) Miceli 609 528 9466 cell # is 917-669-9164
I did my 12 calipers with Tommy, worked perfectly
Also had both my busas are done by him, NO DRAGGING WHATSOEVER
So this is good for street use also???
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entropy
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posted March 01, 2012 10:20 PM
quote:
He does a magic lil mod to the calipers which gives zero drag even with the dust seals in place. costs about $50/caliper.
Thomas (or Tommy) Miceli 609 528 9466 cell # is 917-669-9164
I did my 12 calipers with Tommy, worked perfectly
Also had both my busas are done by him, NO DRAGGING WHATSOEVER
So this is good for street use also???
for sure. dust seals are in place.
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posted March 01, 2012 10:22 PM
[quoteentropy
What have you LSR guys found to be the best chain lube for the least fiction ?
i don't know anyone who does anything special
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posted March 02, 2012 01:47 PM
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[quoteentropy
What have you LSR guys found to be the best chain lube for the least fiction ?
i don't know anyone who does anything special
Smokin...You expect Karl to give away the secrets of LSR...lol
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posted March 02, 2012 03:23 PM
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[quoteentropy
What have you LSR guys found to be the best chain lube for the least fiction ?
i don't know anyone who does anything special
Smokin...You expect Karl to give away the secrets of LSR...lol
I had to ask ...  I don't thing Karl is to worried about me taking any of his records away ..
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posted March 02, 2012 07:58 PM
hahahaahahahahahahahahaha
My philosophy = NO secrets, share and listen, listen, listen.
One of the reasons i like Smokin's threads so much (even when re rags on me) is that he experiments and shares.
When i was drag racing, i tried non-Oring chains, WD40, etc, but went to an X-ring chain & Kawasaki Racing lube. Didn't see measurable improvement and like the maintenance of X-ring better.
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posted March 05, 2012 10:25 AM
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Smokin'
I battled the "dragging pads" thing on my Zx12, found that removing the dust seals solved it, but even on a race only bike, i wasn't really comfortable with the set up.
Then I got hooked up with Thomas Miceli (yup, THAT Miceli)
He does a magic lil mod to the calipers which gives zero drag even with the dust seals in place. costs about $50/caliper.
Thomas (or Tommy) Miceli 609 528 9466 cell # is 917-669-9164
I'm interested in the above?? Any feed back on the brake mods
Hey CajunBoyz! If I ship my calipers, do you know the turn around time? Im in North Carolina.
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posted March 05, 2012 10:59 AM
RC, call him...
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posted March 05, 2012 01:25 PM
Dave sent me an Email with some Details about his Bearing and himself ..
Hi Lee, thanks ! I hate using dyno #'s but I know our customers have seen anywhere for 3 to 5 hp on dynos all over the world depending on what kit it is, and that's measuring 1 wheel only, I tell everyone we are not putting nitrous in the bearings what we are doing is freeing up what is already there by reducing friction. Ask Brock what he has seen , I know he had some really good results. Here's some info on what we do below.
We sell to all the top factory Road Race and MX teams all around the world, and have been since 1998 , Bill Warner's 311 mph Busa has our wheel , trans and cam bearings , we also did wheel bearings in the Bub 7 Streamliner which ran 367 mph ,
not to mention we have had wheel and trans bearings in every NHRA championship Pro Stock Motorcycle since 1999, we have over 20 or 25 bearings in Larry McBride's and Korry Hogan's Top Fuel bikes both 5 second 250 mph 1/4 mile 1000hp
motorcycles. When me and Larry got together around 2000 he was going thru rear wheel bearings twice a season, after we did them he ran 4 or 5 full seasons before we changed them out and everything was still perfect
All our bearings are hand assembled in New Jersey ( USA ) , 95% of the Silicon Nitride balls are manufactured in Connecticut ( USA ) by Cerbec , on the other 5% we use SKF/ MRC ( USA ) and Hoover ( USA ) , the grease is Mobil Polyrex EM ( USA ) , the seals are very light contact seals made in ( Taiwan ) to our specs ,the bearing cage is a 1 piece low friction nylon made by ORS ( Turkey ) or in ( Taiwan ) to our specs , and the steel inner and outer races are made of 52100 bearing steel and mainly from Koyo ( Japan ) but we use a few other Japanese companies too, we also use 1 very good company called ORS ( Turkey ) who right now is even making bearings for Timken USA , here is a pic from the ORS factory in Turkey below. Also one last thing , we have been doing Ceramic bearings since 1998 , since then a lot of Chinese companies are trying to copy what we do , please advise everyone to stay away from Chinese Ceramic Bearings , there are 100's of pages on Ebay of ceramic bearings that will fail , not might they will. I'm even going to give you some of my competitors names , if someone doesn't buy from us I'd feel much better that they bought from another company using quality parts so no one ever gets hurt. Craig @ Micro Blue Racing in Denver NC is a competitor and good friend of ours , he actually takes our hybrids and polishes and coats the steel races , its not in everyones budget but it does help, Charlie @ CBR Bearing in Fallbrook California uses Cerbec balls , Terry @ Bearing Tech in Newberg Oregon uses quality parts and Jack @ Performance Bearings in Arizona uses Cerbec balls too.
I also always recommend to have a dealer install the bearings , they will always have the correct bearing drivers. Please don't get caught up with people telling you to pull the seals off or run oil on the bearings , if you dyno a ceramic bearing with grease and seals against a steel bearing with oil and no seals the ceramic bearing will always show more hp , and once again I hate using dyno #'s , the increase comes from reduced friction of the ceramic ball being rounder , harder and 60% lighter than the steel ball. We have tested every way possible and there is no comparison, 99% of our customers are racers and not that anyone seems to care but we have had a few people do fuel mileage tests and seen a increase of 2 mpg on a 1000cc bike, all thru reduced friction. I tell people all the time if you can notice a difference just pushing a bike around what do you think its doing under a load. Also I saw people posting about Tommy Miceli's brake mod, Tommy is one of my best friends and dynos many of our kits , he also rides my NHRA Suzuki , if you ever need to get in touch with him let me know, Another small mod is to leave the dust seals on but pull the springs off them
I have been in the bearing industry since 1982 , I've worked for the largest distributor in the world at the time, I've worked at a Japanese bearing manufacturer and I went on my own in 1994. I have Drag Raced bikes since 1982 and I truly believe in what we do, you can always get me on the phone for any simple question and I always take time to talk to everyone even if it means pointing them in another direction. Now I'm 47 , own a Busa , ride a YZ250 MX bike , building a 1972 H2 Kawasaki for Land Speed Racing and own the 911
Pro Stock Suzuki that Tommy Miceli rides, and every one of those bikes has tested our bearings in them at one time or another.
Thanks Dave WWB
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posted March 05, 2012 02:25 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 5 Mar 2012 22:29
Great info, Lee! 
I did not know that they assemble their own bearings, like many others I assumed them to be a reseller of shelf products. You know what they say about assumptions, lol.
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posted March 05, 2012 05:16 PM
I called Mr. Miceli today. He told me to ship my calipers to him...I believe he said turn around time was two or three days....dont quote me but that is pretty good timing for me! Oh! and at $50.00 per caliper!
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posted March 05, 2012 05:25 PM
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I called Mr. Miceli today. He told me to ship my calipers to him...I believe he said turn around time was two or three days....dont quote me but that is pretty good timing for me! Oh! and at $50.00 per caliper!
Let us all know how it turns out ..
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posted March 05, 2012 07:53 PM
I also called Mr. Miceli today and he will be getting all 3 of my calipers which will be shipped on Tuesday. He is a very nice man to talk to and the price is $50 per caliper.
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posted March 05, 2012 08:11 PM
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I called Mr. Miceli today. He told me to ship my calipers to him...I believe he said turn around time was two or three days....dont quote me but that is pretty good timing for me! Oh! and at $50.00 per caliper!
yes keep us updated how they work when you get em back
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posted March 06, 2012 12:12 AM
smokin',
good on you for posting Dave's note. 
I've been dealing with him for nearly 10yrs, outstanding customer service.
Even if you are buying just a single bearing, he treats you like a Platinum client of WWB.
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posted March 06, 2012 01:45 AM
I sure will!
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posted March 06, 2012 04:18 AM
Thx for posting that email from Dave, I want to buy a set just because they are all made in USA... I dont give a shit about how much easier my bike is to roll around!
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