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posted February 24, 2012 09:42 PM
 Edited By: gstring on 25 Feb 2012 05:44
zx14 vs hayabusa
the new zx14r is propably the quickest accelelating motorbike at the moment ,stock for stock and believe me coming from me is a lot to say.But lets not be carried away too much ,for the busa is not far behind and is still the only bike with modifications to run the 1/4 mile stock motor in 8.42 sec. I have been challenged by lee (smokinz) to run against him in florida, but as i weigh about 50lb more than he is in full gear, if i am wearing nothing but my gstring, i think it would not be a fair race. However if you modify these 2 bikes at the same level (exhaust, tune ,extensions etc,without touching the motor, you will have 2 bikes of similar performance. Lee is yet to crack into 8,4s and i know that he is 1 of the best drag racers in the business,with his 130lb of body weight and the skills to match, so i am still waiting for somebody to beat that time before bowing down to this newcomer.
anycase we talking only about 0,0secsomething
  
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posted February 24, 2012 10:57 PM
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There will be a lot of bowing, ducking, and sucking this year.
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Bigbore4
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posted February 25, 2012 12:58 AM
Lets be realistic? The new 14 is at least 25 hp more than either the old 14 or the busa.
You wanna believe your busa is quicker, that's your choice.
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dbeadling
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posted February 25, 2012 01:15 AM
there is always something faster....just ride what you got and be happy..still lovin the green
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gstring
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posted February 25, 2012 01:46 AM
20 hp more but 25lb heavier so make up your own mind,,,
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gstring
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posted February 25, 2012 01:49 AM
Edited By: gstring on 25 Feb 2012 09:49
cut the bullshit if they going quicker than 8.42 then well talk
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pghzx14
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posted February 25, 2012 01:56 AM
F### the ugly busa!
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Wheelie
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posted February 25, 2012 02:48 AM
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the new zx14r is propably the quickest accelelating motorbike at the moment ,stock for stock and believe me coming from me is a lot to say.But lets not be carried away too much ,for the busa is not far behind and is still the only bike with modifications to run the 1/4 mile stock motor in 8.42 sec. I have been challenged by lee (smokinz) to run against him in florida, but as i weigh about 50lb more than he is in full gear, if i am wearing nothing but my gstring, i think it would not be a fair race. However if you modify these 2 bikes at the same level (exhaust, tune ,extensions etc,without touching the motor, you will have 2 bikes of similar performance. Lee is yet to crack into 8,4s and i know that he is 1 of the best drag racers in the business,with his 130lb of body weight and the skills to match, so i am still waiting for somebody to beat that time before bowing down to this newcomer.
anycase we talking only about 0,0secsomething
I'm at Texas Raceway every weekend on a stock motor ZX-14r, bring on the Booza's.
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Bigbore4
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posted February 25, 2012 02:51 AM
"20 hp more but 25lb heavier so make up your own mind,,, "
You are funny! Maybe a bit ignorant, but you are funny.
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posted February 25, 2012 04:21 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 25 Feb 2012 12:31
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"20 hp more but 25lb heavier so make up your own mind,,, "
You are funny! Maybe a bit ignorant, but you are funny.
i believe he's talking stock off the showroom floor body weight and hp .. and we saw nobody (other than rickey) did any better in stock trim than what they did on a gen 1 zx14 ..
but since he's comparing apples to oranges .. a pro rider on a trick out busa VS a joe blow (sorry smoken) on a mostly stock zx14r running really close ... i'd like to see them 2 in a heads-up race for all the balls. since brock wants to sell zx14r parts and he owns the busa in question .. i think brock and teasley and smoken should all get together 1 afternoon.. i'd even pay to go see that .. SHOW DOWN @ Valdosta ..has a nice ring to it ..
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posted February 25, 2012 04:36 AM
Here we go again........ LOL
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posted February 25, 2012 04:49 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 25 Feb 2012 12:50
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Here we go again........ LOL
hey you missed the bike event at HRP last nite thrown by moto-houston
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posted February 25, 2012 05:08 AM
Edited By: shawnski on 25 Feb 2012 13:14
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quote:
Here we go again........ LOL
hey you missed the bike event at HRP last nite thrown by moto-houston
Really.. had no clue there was one...
Too many hrs of work and not enough play...
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posted February 25, 2012 05:18 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 25 Feb 2012 13:19
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20 hp more but 25lb heavier so make up your own mind,,,
Suzuki claims a curb weight of 573 for the Busa, Kawasaki claims 584 for the 14R. 11 lbs of difference. 20+ hp is HUGE.
I mean, I understand brand loyalty, but at some point you have to take the blinders off. When a Busa fan makes these kind of posts, it is obvious they have a bit of a chip on their shoulder due to the 14R. They are both great bikes, but time marches on....and the 14R is a big leap forward.
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Famous1
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posted February 25, 2012 06:25 AM
8.42 on a stock motored busa? When? Who?...post a time slip or a video or it didn't happen..... what was the mph?
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posted February 25, 2012 07:50 AM
In 1999 when the Busa first came out I got one. I'm by no means a pro rider, it took me 6 passes just to run 6.90s(mostly because
of the Hayabusa's clutch, it would ether spin the rear or wheelie. I still have the bike and a few other Suzuki's. I also have the new
14R and on it's first time at the track it ran 6.50's stock, why, because time does not wait for anyone!
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posted February 25, 2012 09:14 AM
I ran a Brocked out 08 Busa Alien head and Brocks map. I left him so far behind it was embarrassing.
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ryn0cer0s
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posted February 25, 2012 10:13 AM
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20 hp more but 25lb heavier so make up your own mind,,,
Forgive me for putting my .02 in, since I don't drag race (yet), but if you take hp/weight ratio, the 14r is the clear leader. Both bikes run close to 2.5 lbs/hp at stock trim. if you add 25lbs and 20 hp to either bike, that drops the lbs/hp ratio a full percent. Given that rider skill is the biggest factor, and the hp advantage along the entire curve is second, there is no question which is a faster bike.
Having said that, one or two years and Suzuki will put out a faster Busa, and it will start again.
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JZX
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posted February 25, 2012 10:24 AM
Gstring- you should take a fresh math course.
And btw, The gen 1 zx14 went 8.4's also, Slip was posted right here too.
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posted February 25, 2012 10:56 AM
Anyone see the March issue of Superstreetbike? The front cover has a picture of the ZX-14R and the Hayabusa and it says 'Once and for All! Street, strip, and dyno tested.' One of the quotes in the article says "When ridden back-to-back, the ZX-14R literally made the Busa feel slow."
The Busa is a good bike, there's no doubt about that. I guess it's just hard for the Busa owners to admit the 14R is a quicker and better overall bike.
The 2012 ZX-14R is for real, no matter how many doubters there are.
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posted February 25, 2012 11:10 AM
That was a good article, but, it is getting boring just how many times you have to read how the 14r is superior in almost everyway to the Busa. I got my Cycle World in the mail today, and the 14r is on the cover again. Makes me wish I would have waited a year to get my 14, then I would have the 14r.
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vernesoni23
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posted February 25, 2012 11:46 AM
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Anyone see the March issue of Superstreetbike? The front cover has a picture of the ZX-14R and the Hayabusa and it says 'Once and for All! Street, strip, and dyno tested.' One of the quotes in the article says "When ridden back-to-back, the ZX-14R literally made the Busa feel slow."
The Busa is a good bike, there's no doubt about that. I guess it's just hard for the Busa owners to admit the 14R is a quicker and better overall bike.
The 2012 ZX-14R is for real, no matter how many doubters there are.
Here is a link to the online video of the article.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNlVFNiV1ds
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posted February 25, 2012 01:44 PM
The Busa troll is back and you guys are giving him ham samwiches ?
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posted February 25, 2012 02:16 PM
lol......If you come through elpaso tx...let me know and I show my rear wheel!!..I have done it three times now to piped mapped busa's!!!
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